{"id":3023,"date":"2022-09-12T16:11:56","date_gmt":"2022-09-12T14:11:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/10.0.3.10\/?p=3023"},"modified":"2025-11-20T10:30:08","modified_gmt":"2025-11-20T09:30:08","slug":"prva-epizoda-nasho-podcastu-neumlcani-je-uz-vonku","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/10.0.3.7\/en\/prva-epizoda-nasho-podcastu-neumlcani-je-uz-vonku\/","title":{"rendered":"Prv\u00e1 epiz\u00f3da n\u00e1\u0161ho podcastu Neuml\u010dan\u00ed je u\u017e vonku"},"content":{"rendered":"<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"3023\" class=\"elementor elementor-3023\" data-elementor-post-type=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-5c00a1 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"5c00a1\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-4ee1542e\" data-id=\"4ee1542e\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-50e48117 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"50e48117\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>Vyhodili ju, ke\u010f upozornila na poru\u0161ovanie z\u00e1kona. &#8222;Nevedela by som sklopi\u0165 u\u0161i,&#8220; hovor\u00ed odv\u00e1\u017ena \u00faradn\u00ed\u010dka. Mariana v\u00a0roku 2013 ako pr\u00e1vni\u010dka v Soci\u00e1lnej pois\u0165ovni dospela k z\u00e1veru, \u017ee pois\u0165ov\u0148a pl\u00e1nuje vypl\u00e1ca\u0165 d\u00f4chodky v rozpore so z\u00e1konom. \u0160t\u00e1t to malo st\u00e1\u0165\u00a0 80 mili\u00f3nov eur. Ke\u010f na to svojho zamestn\u00e1vate\u013ea upozornila, dostala v\u00fdpove\u010f.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>V\u00a0prvej epiz\u00f3de podcastu Neuml\u010dan\u00ed sme sa p\u00fdtali Mariany Vavrovej, \u010do bolo pre \u0148u v\u00a0celej situ\u00e1cii naj\u0165a\u017e\u0161ie a ako dlho jej trvalo, k\u00fdm sa op\u00e4\u0165 zamestnala. Ale tie\u017e, \u010di m\u00e1me pod\u013ea nej odv\u00e1\u017enych \u00faradn\u00edkov a\u00a0\u010di by sa znova ozvala po tom v\u0161etkom, \u010do za\u017eila.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>Vypo\u010dujte si podcast Neuml\u010dan\u00ed, ktor\u00fd pre v\u00e1s vytv\u00e1rame v\u00a0spolupr\u00e1ci s denn\u00edkom SME. Ka\u017ed\u00fd prv\u00fd \u0161tvrtok v\u00a0mesiaci sa v\u00a0\u0148om budeme zhov\u00e1ra\u0165 so slovensk\u00fdmi whistleblowermi.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-ecd37d1 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"ecd37d1\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-33c0446\" data-id=\"33c0446\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d3b725a elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"d3b725a\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<iframe style=\"border-radius:12px\" src=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed\/episode\/44pIiMx3QQWMd3ffajVepB?utm_source=generator\" width=\"100%\" height=\"152\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"\" allow=\"autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; fullscreen; picture-in-picture\" loading=\"lazy\"><\/iframe>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-402e333 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"402e333\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-daf6806\" data-id=\"daf6806\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-58f8019 elementor-widget elementor-widget-toggle\" data-id=\"58f8019\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"toggle.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-toggle\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-toggle-item\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div id=\"elementor-tab-title-9321\" class=\"elementor-tab-title\" data-tab=\"1\" role=\"button\" aria-controls=\"elementor-tab-content-9321\" aria-expanded=\"false\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-toggle-icon elementor-toggle-icon-left\" aria-hidden=\"true\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-toggle-icon-closed\"><i class=\"fas fa-caret-right\"><\/i><\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-toggle-icon-opened\"><i class=\"elementor-toggle-icon-opened fas fa-caret-up\"><\/i><\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-toggle-title\" tabindex=\"0\">Textov\u00fd prepis podcastu<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t<div id=\"elementor-tab-content-9321\" class=\"elementor-tab-content elementor-clearfix\" data-tab=\"1\" role=\"region\" aria-labelledby=\"elementor-tab-title-9321\"><p><strong>00:00:05,980 &#8211;&gt; 00:00:41,920 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Mariana Vavrov\u00e1 si ako pr\u00e1vni\u010dka v Soci\u00e1lnej pois\u0165ovni v\u0161imla, \u017ee pois\u0165ov\u0148a pl\u00e1nuje vypl\u00e1ca\u0165 d\u00f4chodky v rozpore so z\u00e1konom. \u0160t\u00e1t mal kv\u00f4li tomu pr\u00eds\u0165 o 80 mili\u00f3nov eur. Ke\u010f na to Mariana svojho zamestn\u00e1vate\u013ea upozornila, dostala v\u00fdpove\u010f. Po\u010d\u00favate podcast Neml\u010dany, ktor\u00fd v\u00e1m prin\u00e1\u0161a rozhovory so slovensk\u00fdmi whistleblowermi, teda s \u013eu\u010fmi, ktor\u00ed odhalili vo svojej pr\u00e1ci korupciu \u010di in\u00e9 poru\u0161ovanie z\u00e1konov a postavili sa za spr\u00e1vnu vec. V\u010faka tomu, \u017ee neml\u010dali, ochr\u00e1nili verejn\u00fd z\u00e1ujem, teda z\u00e1ujmy n\u00e1s v\u0161etk\u00fdch. Moje meno je M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1 a tento podcast pre v\u00e1s vytv\u00e1ra \u00darad na ochranu oznamovate\u013eov v produkcii denn\u00edka Sme. Mariana, dobr\u00fd de\u0148.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:00:41,920 &#8211;&gt; 00:00:48,740 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Dobr\u00fd de\u0148.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:00:48,740 &#8211;&gt; 00:00:56,680 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ako sme po\u010duli, za vami je siln\u00fd a zauj\u00edmav\u00fd pr\u00edbeh. Ja sa sp\u00fdtam hne\u010f tak priamo na \u00favod. Pre\u010do ste sa vtedy rozhodli ozva\u0165?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:00:56,680 &#8211;&gt; 00:01:31,380 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ozvala som sa asi preto, lebo pracovala som tam u\u017e nejak\u00fd \u010das a t\u00fdm p\u00e1dom som mala pocit, \u017ee k tomu m\u00f4\u017eem nie\u010do poveda\u0165 a jednoducho to bolo nie\u010do, s \u010d\u00edm som fakt nes\u00fahlasila. Vedela som, \u017ee mnoh\u00ed s t\u00fdm nes\u00fahlasia. Vedela som, \u017ee je to v rozpore s t\u00fdm, ako postupovala Soci\u00e1lna pois\u0165ov\u0148a nieko\u013eko rokov a mala som pocit, \u017ee sa to urobilo nar\u00fdchlo. Hor\u00facou ihlou sa \u0161il ten vn\u00fatorn\u00fd predpis, pod\u013ea ktor\u00e9ho sa to malo prizn\u00e1va\u0165. A ako ja osobne som mala probl\u00e9m sa podp\u00edsa\u0165 pod tak\u00e9to nie\u010do, ke\u010f v \u00favodzovk\u00e1ch podp\u00edsa\u0165 pod tak\u00e9to nie\u010do.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:01:31,380 &#8211;&gt; 00:01:33,940 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0A v \u010dom bolo nef\u00e9rov\u00e9 to vypl\u00e1canie d\u00f4chodkov?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:01:33,940 &#8211;&gt; 00:01:36,280 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Nef\u00e9rov\u00e9 alebo<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:01:36,280 &#8211;&gt; 00:02:56,920 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>nespr\u00e1vne z n\u00e1\u0161ho poh\u013eadu to bolo v tom, \u017ee z\u00e1kon pod\u013ea n\u00e1s hovoril nie\u010do in\u00e9. Rie\u0161i\u0165 tak\u00fato z\u00e1sadn\u00fa vec iba vn\u00fatorn\u00fdm predpisom, to nebolo v poriadku aj, aj z toho poh\u013eadu, \u017ee z\u00e1kon hovor\u00ed o tom, \u017ee aby ste mali n\u00e1rok na starobn\u00fd d\u00f4chodok, potrebujete odrobi\u0165 v civile, laicky povedan\u00e9 p\u00e4tn\u00e1s\u0165 rokov, \u010do policajti vo v\u00e4\u010d\u0161ine pr\u00edpadov, ak nie v ka\u017edom, neodrobili, preto\u017ee oni vykon\u00e1vali t\u00fa slu\u017ebu v r\u00e1mci toho svojho syst\u00e9mu. A vlastne t\u00fdmto vn\u00fatorn\u00fdm predpisom sa zaviedlo, \u017ee aj t\u00fdmto b\u00fdval\u00fdm policajtom, ktor\u00ed teda neodrobili p\u00e4tn\u00e1s\u0165 rokov v civile, tak sa prizn\u00e1val starobn\u00fd d\u00f4chodok. Samozrejme, nejak\u00fdm sp\u00f4sobom, nazvime to \u010diastkovan\u00fd alebo upravovan\u00fd, aby t\u00e1 suma nebola, \u017ee pln\u00fd starobn\u00fd d\u00f4chodok. A druh\u00e1 vec. Nebolo pod\u013ea m\u0148a f\u00e9rov\u00e9 a teda nie je f\u00e9rov\u00e9, \u017ee sa im do toho v\u00fdpo\u010dtu zoh\u013ead\u0148ovali aj v\u0161etky platy, ktor\u00e9 vlastne oni z\u00edskali po\u010das doby slu\u017eby ako policajti, pri\u010dom z t\u00fdchto platov sa im vypo\u010d\u00edtava ten v\u00fdsluhov\u00fd d\u00f4chodok. \u010ci\u017ee ono akokeby do dvoch v\u00fdpo\u010dtov na dve ich d\u00e1vky id\u00fa st\u00e1le tie ist\u00e9 vstupy a oni \u0165a\u017eia z jednej veci v podstate dvakr\u00e1t. V tomto sa mi to zdalo, \u017ee takto to proste nikdy nebolo myslen\u00e9, ke\u010f sa robil z\u00e1kon o soci\u00e1lnom poisten\u00ed pre, pre civilov ako vo vz\u0165ahu k starobn\u00fdm d\u00f4chodkom.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:02:56,920 &#8211;&gt; 00:03:06,840 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A ozvali ste sa ako zamestnanky\u0148a pois\u0165ovne, ktor\u00e1 chce svojho zamestn\u00e1vate\u013ea upozorni\u0165, \u017ee rob\u00ed nejak\u00fa chybu? Alebo ako ob\u010dianka, ktorej naozaj vad\u00ed, \u017ee sa ide takto pl\u00fdtva\u0165 peniazmi?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:03:06,840 &#8211;&gt; 00:03:28,859 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Asi sk\u00f4r ako ten zamestnanec svojho zamestn\u00e1vate\u013ea som sa na neho obr\u00e1tila s t\u00fdm, \u017ee fakt som si myslela, \u017ee nerob\u00edm ni\u010d zle a jednoducho chcem len upozorni\u0165 na nie\u010do, \u010do mo\u017eno niekto prehliadol. A ako nemala som amb\u00edciu, \u017ee ide sa teraz nie\u010do rie\u0161i\u0165, nejak\u00e1 ob\u010dianska aktivita alebo nie\u010do tak\u00e9to. Asi nie. Klamala by som.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:03:28,860 &#8211;&gt; 00:03:40,060 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Povedzte n\u00e1m tak kr\u00e1tko, ste by posluch\u00e1\u010di tro\u0161ku porozumeli tomu v\u00e1\u0161mu pr\u00edbehu, \u017ee ako vznikla vlastne t\u00e1 situ\u00e1cia? Vy ste dostali na st\u00f4l nejak\u00fd pokyn, kto ho vypracoval? Kto v\u00e1m ho poslal? Pre\u010do?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:03:40,140 &#8211;&gt; 00:05:37,980 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Poveda\u0165 to jednoducho je \u0165a\u017ek\u00e9, lebo vynecha\u0165 tie odborn\u00e9 veci a chcie\u0165, aby to niekto pochopil, je naivn\u00e9. Ale v podstate z\u00e1kon, pod\u013ea ktor\u00e9ho sa prizn\u00e1vali alebo teda prizn\u00e1vaj\u00fa aj dneska d\u00f4chodky, m\u00e1me od roku 2004 a jednoducho roky rok\u00face pois\u0165ov\u0148a sa stavala k t\u00fdmto b\u00fdval\u00fdm pr\u00edslu\u0161n\u00edkom, respekt\u00edve b\u00fdval\u00fdm policajtom a vojakom tak, \u017ee maj\u00fa svoj syst\u00e9m, preto im d\u00f4chodky pod\u013ea z\u00e1kona tohto v\u0161eobecn\u00e9ho pre n\u00e1s civilov, ke\u010f to zjednodu\u0161ene m\u00e1m poveda\u0165, tieto d\u00f4chodky im nepatria. Roky rok\u00face takto rozhodovala, razila si tak\u00fato tendenciu, tento n\u00e1zor. No a samozrejme, \u017ee t\u00fdmto b\u00fdval\u00fdm pr\u00edslu\u0161n\u00edkom sa to nepozd\u00e1valo. Pod\u00e1vali si \u017eiadosti, \u017ee teda oni si mysleli, \u017ee maj\u00fa n\u00e1rok na nejak\u00fd d\u00f4chodok. Skon\u010dili tieto rozhodnutia a\u017e na s\u00fade. No a Najvy\u0161\u0161\u00ed s\u00fad bol tak\u00fd ten prv\u00fd, kto zvr\u00e1til poh\u013ead na t\u00fato problematiku s t\u00fdm, \u017ee za\u010dali sa objavova\u0165 rozhodnutia s\u00fadu, \u017ee nejak\u00fd n\u00e1rok maj\u00fa, s t\u00fdm, \u017ee to boli individu\u00e1lne pr\u00edpady. Soci\u00e1lna pois\u0165ov\u0148a ist\u00fd \u010das i\u0161la st\u00e1le v tom jednom smere, \u017ee teda nedaj\u00fa to, len ke\u010f prik\u00e1\u017ee s\u00fad, aby sa d\u00f4chodok priznal, tak sa ten d\u00f4chodok prizn\u00e1, s \u010d\u00edm sa dalo s\u00fahlasi\u0165, lebo rozhodnutie s\u00fadu mus\u00edte re\u0161pektova\u0165. Ale potom zrazu, bav\u00edme sa o roku 2013 ni\u010doho ni\u010d, bez nejakej \u0161ir\u0161ej debaty, bez nejak\u00e9ho upovedomenia, \u017ee ide sa zmeni\u0165 proste toto nieko\u013ekoro\u010dn\u00e9 nazeranie pois\u0165ovne na, na t\u00fato problematiku, sa vydal vn\u00fatorn\u00fd predpis, kde zrazu on vznikol tak, \u017ee z t\u00fdch rozsudkov sa povy\u0165ahovali z ka\u017ed\u00e9ho nie\u010do, lebo oni neboli rovnak\u00e9. \u017diadny rozsudok nek\u00e1zal rovnako pristupova\u0165 k tomuto hodnoteniu. Proste sa povy\u0165ahovali nejak\u00e9 \u010dasti a posp\u00e1jalo sa to do jedn\u00e9ho vn\u00fatorn\u00e9ho predpisu a pod\u013ea toho sa zrazu mali prizn\u00e1va\u0165 tieto d\u00f4chodky. \u010co teda doteraz si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee to nebolo v poriadku a nie je to v poriadku, ale funguje to no.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:05:37,980 &#8211;&gt; 00:05:46,960 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A kv\u00f4li \u010domu sa to v\u00f4bec udialo? Tla\u010dil niekto na to, aby pois\u0165ov\u0148a teda za\u010dala vypl\u00e1ca\u0165 d\u00f4chodky aj policajtom, ktor\u00ed nejak\u00fd \u010das odrobili v civile?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:05:46,960 &#8211;&gt; 00:06:23,012 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Osobne si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee tam bol tlak pr\u00e1ve t\u00fdchto b\u00fdval\u00fdch pr\u00edslu\u0161n\u00edkov. Oni s\u00fa zdru\u017eovan\u00ed v nem\u00e1m \u010di ob\u010dianske zdru\u017eenie alebo ako to nazva\u0165. Mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee tam bol tlak, aby sa to nejak\u00fdm sp\u00f4sobom vyrie\u0161ilo, \u010do ja teda som nemala probl\u00e9m s t\u00fdm, aby sa to vyrie\u0161ilo. Podstata tej na\u0161ej po\u017eiadavky, \u010do sme vlastne sp\u00edsali v tom na\u0161om liste pre zamestn\u00e1vate\u013ea, bola-Toto premietlo do z\u00e1kona, aby som ja mohla s \u010dist\u00fdm svedom\u00edm poveda\u0165 Pod\u013ea z\u00e1kona v\u00e1m prizn\u00e1vam d\u00f4chodok a nie \u017ee prizn\u00e1vam v\u00e1m ho pod\u013ea vn\u00fatorn\u00e9ho predpisu Soci\u00e1lnej pois\u0165ovne.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:06:23,012 &#8211;&gt; 00:06:34,232 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Vy ste sa obr\u00e1tili aj na svoju nadriaden\u00fa, ktor\u00fa ste upozornili na to, \u017ee teda pois\u0165ov\u0148a pl\u00e1nuje robi\u0165 nie\u010do v rozpore so z\u00e1konom? Ako prebiehala t\u00e1 diskusia, ke\u010f ste pri\u0161li k nej do kancel\u00e1rie?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:06:34,232 &#8211;&gt; 00:07:04,202 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Zpo\u010diatku som mala pocit, \u017ee sme podporovan\u00ed tou priamou nadriadenou. Nemala v\u00fdhrady, sk\u00f4r sa rie\u0161ilo organiza\u010dne, ako to urobi\u0165, kam to smerova\u0165. Tie pripomienky. Boli to zatia\u013e pripomienky toho odboru. P\u00e1r, p\u00e4tn\u00e1s\u0165 \u013eud\u00ed alebo u\u017e nepam\u00e4t\u00e1m si. Rie\u0161ilo sa organiza\u010dne, \u017ee kam to smerova\u0165, komu to doru\u010di\u0165, kto potvrd\u00ed prevzatie. Proste bola tam, \u017ee \u00e1no. M\u00e1te mo\u017enos\u0165, m\u00e1te pr\u00e1vo vyjadri\u0165 sa, tak sa vyjadrite. Len potom sa to nejako zmenilo a u\u017e&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:07:04,202 &#8211;&gt; 00:07:05,592 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Viete pre\u010do?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:07:05,592 &#8211;&gt; 00:07:23,552 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Asi sa pochopilo, \u017ee to nem\u00e1 bud\u00facnos\u0165, aby v\u00f4bec niekto sa bavil o mo\u017enej zmene pr\u00edstupu. Tak rad\u0161ej teda budem razi\u0165 n\u00e1zor zamestn\u00e1vate\u013ea a t\u00fdch v\u0161etk\u00fdch vy\u0161\u0161ie, ako by som podporovala svojich podriaden\u00fdch. Asi takto nejako by som&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:07:23,552 &#8211;&gt; 00:07:35,812 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A vy ste v tej situ\u00e1cii, lebo viem si predstavi\u0165, \u017ee m\u0148a by to bu\u010f teda nahnevalo, alebo by som stratila tak\u00fa mo\u017eno nejak\u00fa chu\u0165, \u017ee v\u00f4bec to \u010falej rie\u0161i\u0165. Ako ste sa vy v tej chv\u00edli c\u00edtili, \u017ee videli ste zmysel v tom \u010fal\u0161om kroku?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:07:35,812 &#8211;&gt; 00:08:05,632 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Je mo\u017en\u00e9, \u017ee nahneval, ale nie \u017ee by som stratila chu\u0165. Pr\u00e1ve\u017ee ideme e\u0161te vy\u0161\u0161ie, ke\u010f sme dole nepochodili asi tak, lebo \u010fal\u0161ie tie pripomienky potom u\u017e boli smerovan\u00e9 priamo a\u017e na gener\u00e1lneho riadite\u013ea, lebo tie prv\u00e9 pripomienky sme vedeli, \u017ee sa vy\u0161\u0161ie nedostali, tak \u010fal\u017eie sme smerovali u\u017e na gener\u00e1lneho riadite\u013ea s t\u00fdm, \u017ee nejak\u00fd \u010das to kolovalo medzi t\u00fdmi odborn\u00fdmi zamestnancami, ktor\u00ed maj\u00fa na starosti agendu d\u00f4chodkov a vyzbieralo sa ve\u013emi r\u00fdchlo.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:08:05,632 &#8211;&gt; 00:08:19,872 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Presn\u00e9 \u010d\u00edslo neviem, ale okolo stovky podpisov, \u010do sa \u013eudia pod to podp\u00edsali, \u017ee zdie\u013eaj\u00fa tento n\u00e1zor, \u010do ma zase len utvrdilo, \u017ee to nie je len m\u00f4j nejak\u00fd pocit, ale asi tam nie\u010do nie je v poriadku.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:08:19,872 &#8211;&gt; 00:08:22,252 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Boli aj kolegov\u00e9, ktor\u00ed v\u00e1s od toho odhov\u00e1rali?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:08:22,252 &#8211;&gt; 00:08:33,352 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Odhov\u00e1ra\u0165 nie, ale tak ironicky boli pozn\u00e1mky h\u00e1dzan\u00e9, \u017ee jaj, aby sa v\u00e1m toto nevr\u00e1tilo e\u0161te. [smiech] To boli t\u00ed, \u010do sa nepodp\u00edsali.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:08:33,352 &#8211;&gt; 00:08:36,172 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>No a nakoniec sa to teda aj stalo. Dostali ste v\u00fdpove\u010f?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:08:36,172 &#8211;&gt; 00:08:36,851 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00c1no.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:08:36,852 &#8211;&gt; 00:08:41,972 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Sk\u00faste e\u0161te mo\u017eno pop\u00edsa\u0165, \u010do sa dialo, ke\u010f ste t\u00fa peticu poslali priamo gener\u00e1lnemu riadite\u013eovi.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:08:41,972 &#8211;&gt; 00:08:58,492 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ono to bolo ve\u013emi r\u00fdchlo, lebo sa poslala. D\u00e1tumy u\u017e si nepam\u00e4t\u00e1m, ale jedn\u00e9ho d\u0148a sa proste doru\u010dila a mysl\u00edm, \u017ee o dva dni som bola zavolan\u00e1 na person\u00e1lne oddelenie, \u017ee sa urobila de\u0148 predt\u00fdm organiza\u010dn\u00e1 zmena a v d\u00f4sledku nej som nadbyto\u010dn\u00e1, tak\u017ee&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:08:58,492 &#8211;&gt; 00:09:04,652 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u010ci\u017ee nebolo priamo pomenovan\u00e9, \u017ee akokeby za va\u0161u aktivitu. Lebo treba poveda\u0165 asi, \u017ee vy ste na tej pet\u00edcii bola podp\u00edsan\u00e1 ako prv\u00e1.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:09:04,652 &#8211;&gt; 00:09:05,532 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00c1no.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:09:05,532 &#8211;&gt; 00:09:10,032 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A o dva dni ste dostali teda v\u00fdpove\u010f. \u010ci\u017ee priamo sa nepomenovalo, \u017ee je to kv\u00f4li tomu, ale-<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:09:10,032 &#8211;&gt; 00:09:26,112 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>To sa ani nem\u00f4\u017ee tak, \u017ee&#8230; Nie je jasn\u00e9, \u017ee sa to v tej chv\u00edli nepomenoval. Nesk\u00f4r potom u\u017e ke\u010f prebiehali debaty za zavret\u00fdmi dverami, u\u017e to bolo in\u00e9, ale v tej chv\u00edli, ke\u010f mi bolo ozn\u00e1men\u00e9, \u017ee nadbyto\u010dn\u00e1 v\u00fdpove\u010f, tak v tej chv\u00edli sa to nepomenoval.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:09:26,112 &#8211;&gt; 00:09:28,152 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A \u010do sa dialo za t\u00fdmi zatvoren\u00fdmi dverami?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:09:28,152 &#8211;&gt; 00:10:14,252 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Tak tam u\u017e ke\u010f sa vedelo, \u017ee bud\u00fa z toho s\u00fadne spory a-a u\u017e sa videlo, \u017ee s\u00fa tam nejak\u00e9 probl\u00e9my. Ja neviem, \u010di si to oni nejako za\u010dali uvedomova\u0165, \u017ee to bolo roben\u00e9 nar\u00fdchlo a \u017ee to nie je dobre uroben\u00e9. Tak u\u017e, u\u017e boli aj menovan\u00e9 osoby, ktor\u00e9 za t\u00fdmto v\u0161etk\u00fdm st\u00e1li a \u017ee tla\u010dili na to, aby boli exempl\u00e1rne dve proste prepusten\u00e9, lebo ja, teda s kolegy\u0148ou b\u00fdvalo sme dostali v\u00fdpove\u010f a v podstate ono sa dosiahlo, \u010do sa dosiahnu\u0165 malo, lebo \u013eudia videli, \u017ee dve akt\u00edvne, teda najakt\u00edvnej\u0161ie skon\u010dili. A \u010do u\u017e oni \u010falej mohli? Tak proste sa zavreli \u00fasta ostatn\u00fdm \u013eu\u010fom a robilo sa tak, ako im bolo nak\u00e1zan\u00e9. Ako splnilo to svoj \u00fa\u010del z tohto poh\u013eadu pre toho zamestn\u00e1vate\u013ea to, \u017ee sme dostali v\u00fdpovede. To ur\u010dite \u00e1no.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:10:14,252 &#8211;&gt; 00:10:17,292 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A v\u00e1m napadlo, \u017ee sa to m\u00f4\u017ee sta\u0165 v\u00f4bec v tom celom procese?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:10:17,292 &#8211;&gt; 00:10:18,312 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00c1no.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:10:18,312 &#8211;&gt; 00:10:20,592 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Boli ste s t\u00fdm zmieren\u00e1?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:10:20,592 &#8211;&gt; 00:10:36,152 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Neviem, \u010di zmieren\u00e1, pripraven\u00e1 na to, \u017ee \u00e1no, ale ke\u010f\u017ee som vedela, \u017ee m\u00e1m z\u00e1zemie, ak\u00e9 z\u00e1zemie m\u00e1m, \u017ee sa tomu budeme \u010falej venova\u0165, tak nehovor\u00edm, \u017ee to bol d\u00f4vod, pre\u010do som do toho i\u0161la. Ale<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:10:36,152 &#8211;&gt; 00:10:49,372 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>nie, nest\u00e1lo mi to za to c\u00favnu\u0165 kv\u00f4li tomu, \u017ee by som si povedala a \u010do ke\u010f ma za to naozaj vyhodia? Tak ke\u010f v\u00e1s vyhodia za tak\u00e9to nie\u010do, tak si poviete, \u017ee tak asi to tak m\u00e1 by\u0165.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:10:49,372 &#8211;&gt; 00:10:52,412 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Je pod\u013ea v\u00e1s strata zamestnania stra\u0161iak pre \u013eud\u00ed?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:10:52,412 &#8211;&gt; 00:11:32,212 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee ako pre koho. Ur\u010dite dok\u00e1\u017eem pochopi\u0165 star\u0161\u00edch \u013eud\u00ed, treb\u00e1rs tesne pred d\u00f4chodkom alebo proste p\u00e1r rokov pred d\u00f4chodkom, kedy je to pre nich probl\u00e9m. Je to pochopite\u013en\u00e9. Mlad\u0161\u00ed \u013eudia alebo teda \u013eudia, ktor\u00ed sa c\u00edtia by z toho nemali ma\u0165 strach, lebo si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee ke\u010f niekto sa fakt sna\u017e\u00ed a teraz d\u00fafam, \u017ee sa nikto nenahnev\u00e1, ale t\u00fa pr\u00e1cu si skr\u00e1tka n\u00e1jde. To s\u00fa pod\u013ea m\u0148a nejak\u00e9 zvl\u00e1\u0161tne zhody okolnost\u00ed, ke\u010f niekto, kto chce pracova\u0165 a je \u0161ikovn\u00fd, \u017ee by si t\u00fa pr\u00e1cu nena\u0161iel.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:11:32,212 &#8211;&gt; 00:11:50,432 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Vy ste u\u017e aj na\u010drtli, \u017ee ste mali teda asi pevn\u00e9 z\u00e1zemie. V tom roku 2013 e\u0161te neexistoval \u00darad na ochranu oznamovate\u013eov, ktor\u00fd by poskytoval nejak\u00e9 pr\u00e1vne poradenstvo alebo v\u00f4bec ochranu \u013eu\u010fom ako vy, ktor\u00ed sa ocitn\u00fa v situ\u00e1cii ako vy. Kto v\u00e1m teda najviac vtedy pomohol v tom \u010dase?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:11:50,432 &#8211;&gt; 00:12:20,480 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ur\u010dite najviac rodina. Ke\u010f\u017ee m\u00e1m man\u017eela pr\u00e1vnika, tak to bola doma debata ka\u017edodenn\u00e1, \u017ee \u010do bude \u010falej a ak\u00e9 m\u00e1me mo\u017enosti. Tak\u017ee z tej odbornej pomoci ur\u010dite man\u017eel, ale&#8230;T\u00e1 rodina ako tak\u00e1. Nikto mi nikdy nepovedal, \u017ee \u010do si to urobila? Bolo ti to treba? Alebo nie\u010do tak\u00e9. Ale ja som st\u00e1le c\u00edtila podporu aj t\u00fdch \u013eud\u00ed. Ja som tam e\u0161te po tej v\u00fdpovedi bola dva mesiace ako v\u00fdpovedn\u00e1 doba a ja som videla aj na t\u00fdch \u013eu\u010foch, \u017ee sa zauj\u00edmaj\u00fa o to, \u010do bude \u010falej.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:12:20,480 &#8211;&gt; 00:12:31,660 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A-a ako t\u00ed kolegovia, v\u00e4\u010d\u0161ina kolegov kr\u00fatila hlavami a ako nemala som pocit nejak\u00e9ho, \u017ee by sa mi oto\u010dili chrbtom teraz za toto, \u010do sa udialo. Pr\u00e1ve\u017ee aj kolegovia boli t\u00e1 podpora.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:12:31,660 &#8211;&gt; 00:12:37,220 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Dok\u00e1zali sa za v\u00e1s aj verejne postavi\u0165 kolegovia? Alebo ako ste vn\u00edmali prakticky t\u00fa ich podporu?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:12:37,220 &#8211;&gt; 00:13:09,180 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>E\u0161te k\u00fdm som tam bola ur\u010dite, lebo ve\u010f vedelo sa, kto je podp\u00edsan\u00fd na t\u00fdch pripomienkach. T\u00fdm p\u00e1dom oni necukli, \u017ee teraz vieme, \u017ee dostali v\u00fdpove\u010f, tak u\u017e s\u0165ahujem svoj podpis alebo nie\u010do tak\u00e9 \u010falej, \u010falej prezentovali ten n\u00e1zor, \u017ee to neni v poriadku a nem\u00e1m pocit, \u017ee by sa vtedy schov\u00e1vali. Ale potom u\u017e ke\u010f pre\u0161iel nejak\u00fd \u010das, tak kolegovia postupne poodch\u00e1dzali, lebo ve\u010f stra\u0161ne zl\u00e1 atmosf\u00e9ra a tak\u00e9to veci neskon\u010dili postihli len v\u00fdpove\u010fami, v\u0161ak zdept\u00e1me e\u0161te aj t\u00fdch, \u010do tam ostali, pre\u010do nie?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:13:09,180 &#8211;&gt; 00:13:10,800 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u010co sa dialo? Ako ich deptali?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:13:10,800 &#8211;&gt; 00:13:34,220 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Nebola som pri tom tak, \u017ee m\u00f4\u017eem len vych\u00e1dza\u0165 z toho, \u010do odznelo na s\u00fadoch, lebo ve\u010f to boli svedkovia v s\u00fadnych sporoch mojom a mojej kolegyne a vypovedali, \u017ee niektor\u00ed pou\u017e\u00edvali slovo \u0161ikana. A to s\u00fa tie klasick\u00e9 veci, ke\u010f v\u00e1s buzeruj\u00fa za \u00fapln\u00e9 ban\u00e1lnosti a viac pr\u00e1ce v\u00e1m prideluj\u00fa. A tak\u00e1 t\u00e1 klasick\u00e1 nespravodlivos\u0165, ke\u010f<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:13:34,220 &#8211;&gt; 00:13:40,880 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>ste nepohodln\u00fd nadriaden\u00e9mu, tak nebola som pri tom. Viem len, \u010do odznelo na s\u00fade.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:13:40,880 &#8211;&gt; 00:13:44,740 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A pre v\u00e1s osobne, \u010do bolo na tom pre v\u00e1s naj\u0165a\u017e\u0161ie?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:13:44,740 &#8211;&gt; 00:14:10,640 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ani neviem, tak\u00fd jeden moment. Mrzelo ma to ist\u00fd \u010das ve\u013emi vo\u010di tej druhej kolegyni, lebo ona to brala \u0165a\u017e\u0161ie a c\u00edtila som sa a nechcem poveda\u0165 zodpovedn\u00e1, lebo ja som nikoho nen\u00fatila, nech sa podp\u00ed\u0161e, ale bolo mi \u013e\u00fato, lebo ona zjavne bola aj zasko\u010den\u00e1 viacej z toho a aj ju to tak viacej zobralo. To bol tak\u00fd chv\u00ed\u013ekov\u00fd moment a potom.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:14:10,640 &#8211;&gt; 00:14:12,770 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u010ci\u017ee bav\u00edme sa o kolegyni, ktor\u00e1 sa ako prv\u00e1 podp\u00edsala<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:14:12,770 &#8211;&gt; 00:14:14,000 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ktor\u00e1 dostala v\u00fdpove\u010f. \u00c1no.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:14:14,000 &#8211;&gt; 00:14:14,069 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Pet\u00edciu a dostala v\u00fdpove\u010f.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:14:14,069 &#8211;&gt; 00:15:01,140 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Druh\u00e1, \u010do bola \u00e1no, \u00e1no. A neviem, \u010di by som vedela tak\u00fd, tak\u00fd \u017ee nejak\u00fd naj\u0165a\u017e\u0161\u00ed moment v tomto n\u00e1js\u0165. Ono boli chv\u00ed\u013eky, ono sa to vlieklo v\u017edycky, ke\u010f nie\u010do sa v tom obdob\u00ed udialo, \u017ee treb\u00e1rs bolo treba nap\u00edsa\u0165 \u017ealobu, tak samozrejme s man\u017eelom ako tandem hej, sme debat\u00ed len o tom a rie\u0161enie \u010do, ako? Potom pri\u0161lo treb\u00e1rs \u017ee bude pojedn\u00e1vanie, tak zase prepn\u00fa\u0165 do toho m\u00f3du, \u017ee ide sa na s\u00fad a zase. Ako toto bolo tak\u00e9, \u017ee podstatn\u00fa \u010das\u0165 \u017eivota sme venovali tomuto a ako bolo to n\u00e1ro\u010dn\u00e9 z tohto poh\u013eadu aj \u010dasovo a aj na jednej strane v\u00fdborne, \u017ee man\u017eel toto rie\u0161il, lebo vedel viac, ako keby som nav\u0161t\u00edvila nejak\u00e9ho advok\u00e1ta. Ale ako ten rodinn\u00fd \u017eivot potom je tak\u00fd polopracovn\u00fd.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:15:01,140 &#8211;&gt; 00:15:10,300 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A ke\u010f si toto v\u0161etko uvedom\u00edte, teda ten rodinn\u00fd \u017eivot, aj ko\u013eko \u010dasu v\u00e1m to zabralo? Lebo tie s\u00fadne spory sa teda \u0165ahali, e\u0161te niektor\u00e9 \u0165ahaj\u00fa. Urobili by ste to znova?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:15:10,300 &#8211;&gt; 00:15:15,540 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Asi \u00e1no, asi \u00e1no. Ako v tomto konkr\u00e9tnom pr\u00edpade \u00e1no.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:15:15,540 &#8211;&gt; 00:15:27,860 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Treba poveda\u0165, \u017ee teda po nieko\u013ek\u00fdch rokoch v\u00e1m sa podarilo nakoniec jeden s\u00fad so Soci\u00e1lnou pois\u0165ov\u0148ou vyhra\u0165 a s\u00fad sa teda rozhodol, \u017ee v\u00e1s prepustili nepr\u00e1vom. Je aspo\u0148 toto pre v\u00e1s nejak\u00e1 satisfakcia?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:15:27,860 &#8211;&gt; 00:16:05,620 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Pre m\u0148a \u00e1no, lebo ve\u010f netreba klama\u0165, s\u00fa z toho aj nejak\u00e9 tie n\u00e1roky. \u010co sa t\u00fdka n\u00e1hrady mzdy spojen\u00e9, tak ur\u010dite \u00e1no. Ale jedin\u00e9, \u010do ma na celom tomto syst\u00e9me ako\u017ee mrz\u00ed je, \u017ee t\u00fdm zamestnancom sa zavreli \u00fasta v tom roku 2013. A koho zauj\u00edma v roku 2020, \u017ee s\u00fad rozhodol, \u017ee t\u00e1 v\u00fdpove\u010f je neplatn\u00e1? U\u017e, u\u017e \u013eudia pozab\u00fadali, ke\u010f aj sa pripomenie, \u017ee V\u00e1vrov\u00e1 vyhrala spor, tak za\u010dn\u00fa: &#8222;\u010co V\u00e1vrov\u00e1? \u010co?&#8220; Nem\u00e1 to u\u017e v\u00fdznam v tom, v tom priestore, kde sa to udialo, u\u017e, u\u017e to nikoho nezauj\u00edma.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:16:05,620 &#8211;&gt; 00:16:11,420 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ale m\u00e1 to mo\u017eno nejak\u00fd symbolick\u00fd v\u00fdznam. Mo\u017eno aj ten v\u00fdznam, \u017ee to m\u00f4\u017ee odstra\u0161i\u0165 toho zamestn\u00e1vate\u013ea, aby si d\u00e1val pozor.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:16:11,420 &#8211;&gt; 00:16:13,839 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>No neviem. V tomto konkr\u00e9tnom pr\u00edpade<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:16:13,839 &#8211;&gt; 00:16:15,810 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ste skeptick\u00e1 v tomto konkr\u00e9tnom.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:16:15,810 &#8211;&gt; 00:16:16,860 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>V tomto konkr\u00e9tnom pr\u00edpade.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:16:16,860 &#8211;&gt; 00:16:35,660 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ale vy ste mi spom\u00ednali, ke\u010f sme sa pred t\u00fdm rozpr\u00e1vali, tak\u00fa celkom vtipn\u00fa situ\u00e1ciu, kedy ste sa vlastne stretli s tou va\u0161ou b\u00fdvalou nadriadenou. Sk\u00faste n\u00e1m to pop\u00edsa\u0165, lebo pod\u013ea m\u0148a to ve\u013emi pekne ilustruje, \u017ee kto na konci tohto pr\u00edbehu sa potom c\u00edti. Ja neviem, \u010di sa hanb\u00ed alebo, alebo proste vie, \u017ee-<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:16:35,660 &#8211;&gt; 00:16:36,150 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>M\u00e1 ne\u010dist\u00e9 svedomie.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:16:36,150 &#8211;&gt; 00:16:37,720 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>-mM\u00e1 ne\u010dist\u00e9 svedomie. \u010co sa stalo?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:16:37,720 &#8211;&gt; 00:17:25,839 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ono zabudla som poveda\u0165, \u017ee aj man\u017eel pracoval v Soci\u00e1lnej pois\u0165ovni e\u0161te d\u00e1vnej\u0161ie, preto poznal to prostredie, a preto to o to \u013eah\u0161ie bolo. Sme s man\u017eelom i\u0161li do nemenovan\u00e9ho obchodu, i\u0161li sme si nakupova\u0165 a stretli sme jednu z t\u00fdchto dvoch nadriaden\u00fdch, ktor\u00e1 si za\u010dala nabera\u0165 pe\u010divo a man\u017eel ju tak v\u00fdrazne nahlas pozdravil a bolo vidno, \u017ee bola proste tak\u00e1 zasko\u010den\u00e1, \u017ee si tam hodila ten jeden ro\u017eok \u010di kajzerku a proste ani neviem, \u010di ozdravila, proste vzduchla pre\u010d s t\u00fdm jedn\u00fdm ro\u017ekom a my sme si nak\u00fapili, \u010do sme potrebovali. Ona odi\u0161la s jedn\u00fdm ro\u017ekom, tak neviem, \u017ee kto m\u00e1 ne\u010dist\u00e9 svedomie.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:17:25,900 &#8211;&gt; 00:17:44,320 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Na va\u0161om pr\u00edbehu je zauj\u00edmav\u00e9 aj to, \u017ee verejnos\u0165 sa o v\u00e1s neuvidela a\u017e vtedy, ke\u010f ste dostali ocenenie Biela vrana, teda ocenenie za odv\u00e1\u017eny ob\u010diansky a spolo\u010densky pr\u00ednosn\u00fd \u010din. V tom \u010dase ho odovzd\u00e1vala aliancia Fair play. Vypo\u010dujme si teraz, \u010do jej vtedaj\u0161ia riadite\u013eka Zuzana Wienk o v\u00e1s povedala.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:17:44,320 &#8211;&gt; 00:18:03,960 [Zuzana Wienk]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>V\u010faka nej biela vrana po prv\u00fdkr\u00e1t priniesla pr\u00edbeh, ktor\u00fd nebol verejnosti zn\u00e1my a ktor\u00fd naozaj ve\u013emi silno zarezonoval. Toto ocenenie sme jej odovzdali za odvahu, preto\u017ee ver\u00edme, \u017ee zamestnanci, ktor\u00ed pracuj\u00fa vo verejn\u00fdch in\u0161tit\u00faci\u00e1ch, nemaj\u00fa by\u0165 slep\u00fdmi vykon\u00e1va\u010dmi nariaden\u00ed, ktor\u00e9 pr\u00eddu zhora.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:18:04,144 &#8211;&gt; 00:18:34,443 [Zuzana Wienk]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>T\u00e1to kritika je, ale maj\u00fa rozm\u00fd\u0161\u013ea\u0165 svojou vlastnou hlavou a br\u00e1ni\u0165 z\u00e1konnos\u0165 tam, kde je to potrebn\u00e9 a kde tomu veria. A mysl\u00edme si, \u017ee tak\u00e1to vn\u00fatorn\u00e1 kritika alebo polemika je neuverite\u013ene d\u00f4le\u017eit\u00e1 a nemala by by\u0165 trestan\u00e1. Naopak, mala by by\u0165 oce\u0148ovan\u00e1. A v\u010faka jej pr\u00edbehu sa n\u00e1m podarilo upozorni\u0165 na to, \u017ee v slovensk\u00fdch verejn\u00fdch in\u0161tit\u00faci\u00e1ch to b\u00fdva inak. A my by sme boli radi, keby tak\u00fdchto \u013eud\u00ed, kritick\u00fdch \u013eud\u00ed vo verejn\u00fdch in\u0161tit\u00faci\u00e1ch pracovalo ove\u013ea viac.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:18:34,444 &#8211;&gt; 00:18:56,764 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Zuzana Wienk povedala nieko\u013eko zauj\u00edmav\u00fdch vec\u00ed, s ktor\u00fdmi sa ur\u010dite d\u00e1 stoto\u017eni\u0165. Napr\u00edklad, \u017ee pracovn\u00edci v \u0161t\u00e1tnej spr\u00e1ve nemaj\u00fa by\u0165 slep\u00fdmi vykon\u00e1va\u010dmi pr\u00edkazu zhora a \u017ee by sme boli radi, keby kriticky zm\u00fd\u0161\u013eaj\u00facich \u013eud\u00ed bolo v \u0161t\u00e1tnej spr\u00e1ve viac. Toto povedala v roku 2013, kedy ste z\u00edskali teda ocenenie Biela vrana. Ako je to teraz pod\u013ea v\u00e1s? S\u00fa dnes \u00faradn\u00edci odv\u00e1\u017enej\u0161\u00ed?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:18:56,764 &#8211;&gt; 00:19:22,342 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ja si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee u\u017e aj vtedy tam bolo ve\u013ea \u013eud\u00ed, ktor\u00ed vedeli vyhodnoti\u0165 t\u00fa situ\u00e1ciu. Aj si vedeli sami pre seba poveda\u0165, \u017ee toto nie je v poriadku. Sk\u00f4r je rozdiel v tom, \u017ee kto a \u010do je ochotn\u00fd pre to urobi\u0165, aby dal najavo, \u017ee si toto mysl\u00ed. A toto pod\u013ea m\u0148a sk\u00f4r ch\u00fdba. Ani nie, pod\u013ea m\u0148a \u013eudia nemaj\u00fa&#8211; eh, vedia si vyhodnoti\u0165, len nie ka\u017ed\u00fd je ochotn\u00fd urobi\u0165 nejak\u00e9 kroky, aby to zvr\u00e1til. \u010co ale zase ja ch\u00e1pem.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:19:22,384 &#8211;&gt; 00:19:25,744 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>S \u010d\u00edm to pod\u013ea v\u00e1s s\u00favis\u00ed, \u017ee boja sa, eh, \u017ee pr\u00eddu pred-<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:19:25,744 &#8211;&gt; 00:19:35,063 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Pod\u013ea m\u0148a s\u00fa to nejak\u00e9 \u0165a\u017ek\u00e9 \u017eivotn\u00e9 situ\u00e1cie, kedy si ka\u017ed\u00fd mus\u00ed rozmyslie\u0165, \u017ee \u010di je ochotn\u00fd podst\u00fapi\u0165 riziko straty zamestnania. Ako ja. Ja to ch\u00e1pem.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:19:35,063 &#8211;&gt; 00:19:37,684 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Mhm, V\u00e1m trvalo dlho, k\u00fdm ste si na\u0161li nov\u00fa pr\u00e1cu?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:19:37,684 &#8211;&gt; 00:19:38,563 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ani nie.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:19:38,563 &#8211;&gt; 00:19:40,823 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u010co to znamen\u00e1? [smiech] Kde teraz pracujete?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:19:40,823 &#8211;&gt; 00:19:44,404 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Pracujem na ministerstve<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:19:44,404 &#8211;&gt; 00:20:04,623 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>vn\u00fatra s t\u00fdm, \u017ee tam som sa dostala tak, \u017ee v\u010faka medializ\u00e1cii tohto pr\u00edpadu eh, ma oslovili, \u010di tam chcem pracova\u0165 pr\u00e1ve s agendou t\u00fdchto v\u00fdsluhov\u00fdch d\u00e1vok, preto\u017ee tie\u017e videli probl\u00e9m v tomto, ako sa k tomu Soci\u00e1lna pois\u0165ov\u0148a postavila, mysl\u00edm odborne k tej problematike.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:20:04,623 &#8211;&gt; 00:20:19,504 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Vy ste teda tak\u00fd celkom pozit\u00edvny pr\u00edpad, \u017ee niekedy to m\u00f4\u017ee dopadn\u00fa\u0165 aj dobre, \u017ee nie, \u017ee \u010dlovek zostane na dla\u017ebe teraz nieko\u013eko mesiacov alebo rokov, ale v\u00e1m pr\u00e1ve v\u010faka tomu pon\u00fakli nov\u00fa pr\u00e1cu. Tak to asi ur\u010dite v\u00e1m tie\u017e v\u00fdrazne pomohlo aj psychicky to zvl\u00e1dnu\u0165, t\u00fato-<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:20:19,504 &#8211;&gt; 00:20:20,083 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ur\u010dite \u00e1no.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:20:20,083 &#8211;&gt; 00:20:27,664 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>-situ\u00e1ciu. Pre\u010do ste sa v\u00f4bec rozhodli \u0161tudova\u0165 pr\u00e1vo? Kde vo v\u00e1s berie ten zmysel pre spravodlivos\u0165?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:20:27,664 &#8211;&gt; 00:21:58,224 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Zmysel pre spravodlivos\u0165 alebo nejak\u00e9, ja by som to nazvala, \u017ee tak\u00e9 nejak\u00e9 norm\u00e1lne vn\u00fatorn\u00e9 nastavenie \u010dloveka. Pod\u013ea m\u0148a to ani neviem, \u017ee by som ho niekedy nemala, ak tak neskromne m\u00f4\u017eem poveda\u0165. Hmm, nem\u00e1m tak\u00fd nejak\u00fd \u017eivotn\u00fd pr\u00edbeh za sebou, \u017ee teraz nejak\u00e1 rodina ob\u010dianskych aktivistov alebo nie\u010do tak\u00e9to. Mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee v\u017edycky to tak nejako spr\u00e1vne fungovalo, hoci rodin\u00e9 z\u00e1zemie bolo tak\u00e9 komplikovanej\u0161ie, ale \u010do sa t\u00fdka t\u00fdchto hodn\u00f4t, nikdy nebol nejak\u00fd probl\u00e9m vedie\u0165 pos\u00fadi\u0165, \u010do je f\u00e9r, \u010do nie je f\u00e9r. Sk\u00f4r ja som bola tak\u00e1 tich\u00e1, \u017ee aj ke\u010f som ve\u013eakr\u00e1t videla, \u017ee ou, toto nen\u00ed v poriadku, ale net\u00fdka sa ma to, nezasiahnem, nepoviem. A t\u00e1to udalos\u0165, \u010do sa odohrala v tom roku 2013, ke\u010f som sa tak zamyslela sama nad sebou, \u017ee ja tich\u00fd \u010dlovek, ja som sa ozvala. To sk\u00f4r asi bola tak\u00e1 zhoda okolnost\u00ed v \u010dase, \u017ee, \u017ee nejako som mo\u017eno ja neviem, \u010di dozrela, \u010di ako to nazva\u0165, alebo sa proste nejak\u00fd in\u00fd level u m\u0148a u\u017e nastavil. Ur\u010dite aj to, \u017ee som mala za sebou nejak\u00fa pracovn\u00fa sk\u00fasenos\u0165, tak som si povedala, \u017ee fakt, \u017ee tuto nem\u00e1m probl\u00e9m sa ozva\u0165 a \u00eds\u0165 do debaty na t\u00e9mu, k ktorej si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee rozumiem. Keby som nerozumela, tak sa neozvem. A \u017ee pre\u010do som i\u0161la napravo? No neviem, ke\u010f m\u00e1m popravde poveda\u0165 nem\u00e1me ani pr\u00e1vnikov v rodine. Asi to bolo tak\u00e9 to klasick\u00e9, dobre sa u\u010d\u00ed, vie sa u\u010di\u0165. Tak<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:21:58,224 &#8211;&gt; 00:22:01,984 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>ak\u00e9 s\u00fa mo\u017enosti? Medic\u00edna, pr\u00e1vo. No tak neviem. Hodila som si mincu.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:22:01,984 &#8211;&gt; 00:22:03,082 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Nem\u00e1 to konkr\u00e9tny d\u00f4vod?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:22:03,083 &#8211;&gt; 00:22:17,964 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee na strednej \u0161kole ani nie je nejak\u00fdm sp\u00f4sobom podchytite\u013en\u00e9, \u017ee sa zauj\u00edmate o pr\u00e1vnu oblas\u0165, \u010di\u017ee sk\u00f4r to asi na tej vysokej \u0161kole pochop\u00edte, \u017ee aha, toto je nie\u010do, \u010domu sa chcem venova\u0165, lebo to nie je proste t\u00e1 oblas\u0165, ktor\u00e1 v\u00e1s zauj\u00edma.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:22:17,964 &#8211;&gt; 00:22:32,764 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A ke\u010f ste hovorili, \u017ee ste nikdy vlastne neboli nejak\u00e1 tak\u00e1, ktor\u00e1 by sa hne\u010f ozvala, ke\u010f nie\u010do sa nespravodlivo dialo. Dalo v\u00e1m tento v\u00e1\u0161 osobn\u00fd pr\u00edbeh nejak\u00e9 sebavedomie, \u017ee teraz u\u017e by ste to teda automaticky urobili, \u017ee u\u017e nie ste t\u00e1 tich\u00e1 Mariana?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:22:32,764 &#8211;&gt; 00:23:19,384 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>No neviem, neviem \u010di sebavedomie, ale asi som ostala tak nastaven\u00e1, \u017ee ke\u010f nie\u010do sa deje, tak sa ozvem, ale v zmysle, \u017ee si poviem svoj n\u00e1zor, nepretl\u00e1\u010dam ho, nen\u00fatim ho nikomu, ale poviem si svoj n\u00e1zor a bu\u010f ho niekto prijme, alebo ho neprijme. Vo\u013eakedy som mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee fakt mala probl\u00e9m poveda\u0165 si svoj n\u00e1zor a rad\u0161ej teda, v\u0161ak sa ma to net\u00fdka, ostanem ticho. A teraz mysl\u00edm \u00faplne, \u017ee obdobie k\u013eudne stredn\u00e1 \u0161kola alebo tak\u00e9to, nielen v zamestnan\u00ed. A od tejto kauzy alebo ako by som to nazvala, \u010do sa udialo v Soci\u00e1lnej pois\u0165ovni, som sa na\u0161\u0165astie nikdy nestretla s t\u00fdm, \u017ee len za to, \u017ee chcete upozorni\u0165 a vlastne mysl\u00edte to v dobrom a sna\u017e\u00edte sa nie\u010do rie\u0161i\u0165, \u017ee by sa na v\u00e1s niekto pozrel, \u017ee nie. Ticho, sklapni.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:23:19,384 &#8211;&gt; 00:23:31,884 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ned\u00e1 mi neop\u00fdta\u0165 sa pr\u00e1vni\u010dky tak\u00fa vec, \u017ee mysl\u00edte si, \u017ee Slovensko je vyspel\u00fd pr\u00e1vny \u0161t\u00e1t? A teraz od v\u00e1s nechcem naozaj \u017eiadnu anal\u00fdzu, len tak\u00fd v\u00e1\u0161 osobn\u00fd pocit, ako to vn\u00edmate? Spolo\u010dnos\u0165?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:23:31,884 &#8211;&gt; 00:23:59,264 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee m\u00e1me nastaven\u00e9 syst\u00e9my, aby sme boli, ale je to o \u013eu\u010foch, si mysl\u00edm. \u010ci u\u017e je to o sudcoch, \u010di u\u017e je to o t\u00fdch \u00faradn\u00edkoch, ktor\u00ed maj\u00fa na starosti nejak\u00e9 veci, aby s-veci netrvali dlho. Je to o \u013eu\u010foch si mysl\u00edm. Asi m\u00e1me nastaven\u00e9 tie syst\u00e9my, aby v\u0161etko fungovalo. Tak jednoducho povedan\u00e9, ofici\u00e1lne v\u0161etko funguje. Neofici\u00e1lne je pr\u00e1ve to, \u010do ludia robia s t\u00fdm syst\u00e9mom, si mysl\u00edm.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:23:59,264 &#8211;&gt; 00:24:02,684 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Posledn\u00e1 ot\u00e1zka, pre\u010do m\u00e1 pod\u013ea v\u00e1s zmysel ozva\u0165 sa?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:24:02,684 &#8211;&gt; 00:24:38,623 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Aby ste si to asi potom nikdy sp\u00e4tne nevy\u010d\u00edtali, \u017ee som sa mohla ozva\u0165 a ktovie, \u010do by sa stalo, keby som sa ozvala. V mojom konkr\u00e9tnom pr\u00edpade ono v\u017edy s\u00fa dve mo\u017enosti, alebo teda minim\u00e1lne dve mo\u017enosti. Sklopi\u0165 hlavu a robi\u0165, \u010do v\u00e1m nak\u00e1\u017eu, alebo si proste poveda\u0165 to svoje. V mojom konkr\u00e9tnom pr\u00edpade toto bola vec, ktor\u00fa ja by som nevedela sklopi\u0165 u\u0161i po tom, \u010do si u\u017e poviete nie\u010do. Ono in\u00e9 je debatova\u0165, vysvetli\u0165 si veci. In\u00e9 je, ke\u010f dostanete pokynom, drz\u00fdm pokynom, arogantn\u00fdm: &#8222;Robte toto a bu\u010fte ticho.&#8220;<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:24:38,623 &#8211;&gt; 00:24:41,424 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u010eakujem Mariana, \u017ee ste n\u00e1m porozpr\u00e1vali v\u00e1\u0161 pr\u00edbeh.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:24:41,424 &#8211;&gt; 00:24:44,343 [Mariana Vavrov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u010eakujem aj ja.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:24:44,343 &#8211;&gt; 00:25:11,123 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>L\u00fa\u010dim sa aj s vami, mil\u00ed posluch\u00e1\u010di. Po\u010d\u00favali ste podcast Neuml\u010dan\u00ed a d\u00fafam, \u017ee si pust\u00edte aj jeho \u010fal\u0161iu epiz\u00f3du o mesiac. Dovtedy nezabudnite, neml\u010da\u0165 je zlato. Tento podcast pre v\u00e1s vytv\u00e1ra \u00darad na ochranu oznamovate\u013eov. Ak n\u00e1m chcete ozn\u00e1mi\u0165 korupciu alebo in\u00e9 poru\u0161ovanie z\u00e1konov, ktor\u00e9 maj\u00fa dopad na verejn\u00fd z\u00e1ujem, nap\u00ed\u0161te n\u00e1m na neumlcani@ oznamovatelia.sk.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Vyhodili ju, ke\u010f upozornila na poru\u0161ovanie z\u00e1kona. &#8222;Nevedela by som sklopi\u0165 u\u0161i,&#8220; hovor\u00ed odv\u00e1\u017ena \u00faradn\u00ed\u010dka. Mariana v\u00a0roku 2013 ako pr\u00e1vni\u010dka v Soci\u00e1lnej pois\u0165ovni dospela k z\u00e1veru, \u017ee pois\u0165ov\u0148a pl\u00e1nuje vypl\u00e1ca\u0165 d\u00f4chodky v rozpore so z\u00e1konom. \u0160t\u00e1t to malo st\u00e1\u0165\u00a0 80 mili\u00f3nov eur. 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