{"id":3316,"date":"2022-12-01T15:48:00","date_gmt":"2022-12-01T14:48:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/10.0.3.10\/?p=3316"},"modified":"2025-11-20T10:56:37","modified_gmt":"2025-11-20T09:56:37","slug":"podcast-neumlcani-marta-bocekova-upozornila-na-hospodarenie-katolickej-univerzity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/10.0.3.7\/en\/podcast-neumlcani-marta-bocekova-upozornila-na-hospodarenie-katolickej-univerzity\/","title":{"rendered":"Podcast Neuml\u010dan\u00ed: Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1 upozornila na hospod\u00e1renie Katol\u00edckej univerzity"},"content":{"rendered":"<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"3316\" class=\"elementor elementor-3316\" data-elementor-post-type=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-69139c0b elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"69139c0b\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-53e37b79\" data-id=\"53e37b79\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-66d6a841 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"66d6a841\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n<p>Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1 ako kontrol\u00f3rka Katol\u00edckej univerzity v Ru\u017eomberku v roku 2012 pri\u0161la na viacer\u00e9 pochybenia pri hospod\u00e1ren\u00ed univerzity. Ke\u010f svoje zistenia sp\u00edsala do ofici\u00e1lnej spr\u00e1vy, akademick\u00fd sen\u00e1t sa sna\u017eil najsk\u00f4r odvola\u0165 rektora Tadeusza Zasepu, ktor\u00fd nariadil kontrolu. Ke\u010f sa nakoniec rozhodol s\u00e1m rezignova\u0165, \u010fal\u0161\u00edm ter\u010dom \u00fatokov sa stala pani Bo\u010dekov\u00e1.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n\n<p>Dovtedy chv\u00e1len\u00e1 pracovn\u00ed\u010dka sa zrazu stala nepohodlnou. \u201eBola to zauj\u00edmav\u00e1 situ\u00e1cia. Nast\u00fapil nov\u00fd p\u00e1n rektor a ke\u010f sme sa prv\u00fdkr\u00e1t spolu stretli, podpisoval mi dovolenkov\u00fd l\u00edstok, ve\u013emi pekne sa o mne vyjadroval. D\u00e1val mi n\u00e1dej, \u017ee si ur\u010dite n\u00e1jdem pr\u00e1cu aj v jeho t\u00edme a \u017ee so mnou bude r\u00e1d \u010falej spolupracova\u0165. Tento n\u00e1zor zmenil po dvoch t\u00fd\u017ed\u0148och, ke\u010f som sa vr\u00e1tila z dovolenky,\u201c spom\u00edna b\u00fdval\u00e1 kontrol\u00f3rka.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n\n<p>V najnov\u0161ej epiz\u00f3de podcastu Neuml\u010dan\u00ed opisuje Bo\u010dekov\u00e1 nielen zistenia, ktor\u00e9 ju st\u00e1li miesto, ale tie\u017e, ako sa zachovalo okolie aj jej najbli\u017e\u0161\u00ed, ke\u010f sa rozhodla s Katol\u00edckou univerzitou v Ru\u017eomberku s\u00fadi\u0165 o neplatnos\u0165 v\u00fdpovede.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n\n<p>Vypo\u010dujte si podcast Neuml\u010dan\u00ed, ktor\u00fd pre v\u00e1s pripravuje \u00darad na ochranu oznamovate\u013eov v produkcii denn\u00edka SME. Ka\u017ed\u00fd prv\u00fd \u0161tvrtok v mesiaci sa v \u0148om zhov\u00e1rame so slovensk\u00fdmi whistleblowermi. Teda s \u013eu\u010fmi, ktor\u00ed odhalili korupciu, podvody \u010di in\u00e9 poru\u0161ovanie z\u00e1konov v pr\u00e1ci a rozhodli sa to ozn\u00e1mi\u0165. A v\u010faka tomu ochr\u00e1nili verejn\u00fd z\u00e1ujem.<\/p>\n\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-25670f3 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"25670f3\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-69004ec\" data-id=\"69004ec\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5c9fc51 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"5c9fc51\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<iframe style=\"border-radius:12px\" src=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed\/episode\/2DcLTqFszs3cPhVyCHJnbp?utm_source=generator\" width=\"100%\" height=\"152\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"\" allow=\"autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; fullscreen; picture-in-picture\" loading=\"lazy\"><\/iframe>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-b1d1a9a elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"b1d1a9a\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-1cb2b77\" data-id=\"1cb2b77\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b9c6da5 elementor-widget elementor-widget-toggle\" data-id=\"b9c6da5\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"toggle.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-toggle\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-toggle-item\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div id=\"elementor-tab-title-1941\" class=\"elementor-tab-title\" data-tab=\"1\" role=\"button\" aria-controls=\"elementor-tab-content-1941\" aria-expanded=\"false\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-toggle-icon elementor-toggle-icon-left\" aria-hidden=\"true\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-toggle-icon-closed\"><i class=\"fas fa-caret-right\"><\/i><\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-toggle-icon-opened\"><i class=\"elementor-toggle-icon-opened fas fa-caret-up\"><\/i><\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-toggle-title\" tabindex=\"0\">Textov\u00fd prepis podcastu<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t<div id=\"elementor-tab-content-1941\" class=\"elementor-tab-content elementor-clearfix\" data-tab=\"1\" role=\"region\" aria-labelledby=\"elementor-tab-title-1941\"><p><strong>00:00:05,880 &#8211;&gt; 00:00:54,500 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1 ako kontrol\u00f3rka Katol\u00edckej univerzity v Ru\u017eomberku v roku 2013 pri\u0161la na viacer\u00e9 pochybenia pri hospod\u00e1ren\u00ed univerzity. Ke\u010f svoje zistenia sp\u00edsala do ofici\u00e1lnej spr\u00e1vy, Akademick\u00fd sen\u00e1t sa sna\u017eil najsk\u00f4r odvola\u0165 rektora Tade\u00e1\u0161a Zasepu, ktor\u00fd kontrolu nariadil. Ten sa po viacer\u00fdch tlakoch rozhodol s\u00e1m rezignova\u0165, no n\u00e1sledne sa \u010fal\u0161\u00edm ter\u010dom \u00fatokov stala pani Bo\u010dekov\u00e1. Dovtedy chv\u00e1len\u00e1 pracovn\u00ed\u010dka sa zrazu stala nepohodlnou a Akademick\u00fd sen\u00e1t rozhodol o jej prepusten\u00ed z pr\u00e1ce. Po\u010d\u00favate podcast Neuml\u010dan\u00ed, ktor\u00fd v\u00e1m prin\u00e1\u0161a rozhovory so slovensk\u00fdmi whistleblowermi, teda s \u013eu\u010fmi, ktor\u00ed odhalili vo svojej pr\u00e1ci korupciu \u010di in\u00e9 poru\u0161ovanie z\u00e1konov a postavili sa za spr\u00e1vnu vec. V\u010faka tomu, \u017ee neml\u010dali, ochr\u00e1nili verejn\u00fd z\u00e1ujem. Moje meno je M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1 a tento podcast pre v\u00e1s vytv\u00e1ra \u00darad na ochranu oznamovate\u013eov v produkcii denn\u00edka Sme. Dobr\u00fd de\u0148, pani Bo\u010dekov\u00e1.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:00:54,500 &#8211;&gt; 00:01:00,160 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Dobr\u00fd de\u0148.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:01:00,160 &#8211;&gt; 00:01:13,240 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ja na \u00favod hne\u010f poviem, \u017ee ja som teda aj b\u00fdval\u00e1 \u0161tudentka Katol\u00edckej univerzity, \u010di\u017ee ja som ve\u013emi zvedav\u00e1 na ten v\u00e1\u0161 pr\u00edbeh, ale ver\u00edm, \u017ee bude zauj\u00edmav\u00fd aj pre na\u0161ich \u010fal\u0161\u00edch posluch\u00e1\u010dov. Ako dlho ste boli kontrol\u00f3rkou na Katol\u00edckej univerzite?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:01:13,240 &#8211;&gt; 00:01:25,100 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Na Katol\u00edckej univerzite som za\u010dala pracova\u0165 v auguste 2012. Prv\u00fa v\u00fdpove\u010f, ktor\u00fa mi chceli da\u0165, bolo v j\u00fali 2014, ale nakoniec sa to podarilo a\u017e v marci 2015.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:01:25,100 &#8211;&gt; 00:01:36,660 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>K tomu sa e\u0161te dostaneme, ak\u00e9 okolnosti k tomu predch\u00e1dzali, ale povedzte n\u00e1m e\u0161te, \u017ee \u010do ste robili mo\u017eno predt\u00fdm, \u017ee \u010di ste boli predt\u00fdm dlhoro\u010dnou kontrol\u00f3rkou alebo ste pracovali \u00faplne in\u00e9 oblasti. Ako ste sa vlastne dostali na t\u00fa Katol\u00edcku univerzitu?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:01:36,660 &#8211;&gt; 00:02:23,500 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ja som predt\u00fdm takmer dvadsa\u0165 rokov pracovala v bankovn\u00edctve. Ka\u017ed\u00fd, kto v bankovn\u00edctve pracuje, vie, ak\u00e1 je to psychicky n\u00e1ro\u010dn\u00e1 pr\u00e1ca. A ke\u010f\u017ee sa pracovn\u00fd stres za\u010dal odr\u00e1\u017ea\u0165 na mojom, na mojom zdrav\u00ed, tak som si za\u010dala h\u013eada\u0165 in\u00fa pr\u00e1cu, ale s t\u00fdm, \u017ee som nechcela \u00eds\u0165 pracova\u0165 op\u00e4\u0165 do inej banky, z ktor\u00fdch boli ponuky na pr\u00e1cu. Chcela som \u00faplne, \u00faplne zmeni\u0165 rezort pr\u00e1ce a tak som si za\u010dala h\u013eada\u0165 pr\u00e1cu mimo. V tom obdob\u00ed sa za\u010dala v Ru\u017eomberku stava\u0165 kni\u017enica Katol\u00edckej univerzity a h\u013eadali riadite\u013eku. Bolo vyp\u00edsan\u00e9 v\u00fdberov\u00e9 konanie. Ja som sa prihl\u00e1sila, ale vtedy mi bolo povedan\u00e9: &#8222;\u00c1no, m\u00e1te ve\u013ek\u00e9 sk\u00fasenosti, ale bohu\u017eia\u013e, vy nem\u00e1te vzdelanie.&#8220; Tak som sa vtedy rozhodla, \u017ee to vzdelanie si dorob\u00edm, aby som mohla pracova\u0165 ako\u017ee aj niekde inde mimo bankovn\u00edctva.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:02:23,500 &#8211;&gt; 00:02:30,900 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u010ci\u017ee vy ste popri svojej prvej pr\u00e1ci e\u0161te \u0161tudovali vysok\u00fa \u0161kolu, aby ste sa mohli teda zamestna\u0165 inde? A kde ste \u0161tudovali?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:02:30,900 &#8211;&gt; 00:02:32,960 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u0160tudovala som na Katol\u00edckej univerzite.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:02:32,960 &#8211;&gt; 00:02:36,740 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Tak\u017ee vlastne vy ste tam boli najsk\u00f4r \u0161tudentkou a nesk\u00f4r kontrol\u00f3rkou.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:02:36,740 &#8211;&gt; 00:02:37,540 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00c1no, \u00e1no.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:02:37,540 &#8211;&gt; 00:02:40,480 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Dobre, po\u010fme k tomu, \u010do ste tam teda zistili u\u017e ako kontrol\u00f3rka?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:02:40,480 &#8211;&gt; 00:03:43,579 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>No, ako kontrol\u00f3rka, to je \u0165a\u017eko sa k tomu aj vraca\u0165, alebo ke\u010f si \u010dlovek na to spomenie. Ako ak\u00fdko\u013evek \u0161an\u00f3n som otvorila, tak som bola ve\u013emi prekvapen\u00e1 z t\u00fdch odhalen\u00ed tam, preto\u017ee ani jeden nebol v poriadku v takom, ako by mal. Preto\u017ee ke\u010f si pomysl\u00edte, \u017ee m\u00e1me nejak\u00fd z\u00e1kon o \u00fa\u010dtovn\u00edctve a ten plat\u00ed \u010di pre podnikate\u013esk\u00fa sf\u00e9ru alebo verejn\u00fa sf\u00e9ru. A zrazu tak\u00e9to ve\u013ek\u00e9 nedostatky, tak nem\u00f4\u017eete sa o tom rozpr\u00e1va\u0165 s k\u00fdmko\u013evek, hej? Preto\u017ee mus\u00edte zachov\u00e1va\u0165 nejak\u00fa ml\u010danlivos\u0165 a tak\u00e9 zistenia, ve\u013emi \u0165a\u017eko som sa s t\u00fdm vysporad\u00favala. Tie, tie pochybenia tam boli z toho, \u017ee boli vyberan\u00e9 poplatky, ktor\u00e9 sa nedostali nikdy na \u00fa\u010det Katol\u00edckej univerzity ani do pokladne. Boli tam pochybenia v oblasti vzdel\u00e1vania, \u017ee boli prij\u00edman\u00e9 poplatky za vzdel\u00e1vanie, za habilit\u00e1cie, ktor\u00e9 sa nedostali do pokladne. Boli vystavovan\u00e9 cestovn\u00e9 pr\u00edkazy \u013eu\u010fom, ktor\u00ed v \u017eivote pracovn\u00fa cestu nevykonali, ale z\u00fa\u010dtovan\u00e1 bola. No, ve\u013ea oblast\u00ed tam bolo.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:03:43,580 &#8211;&gt; 00:03:49,600 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A vy ste vo svojej nejakej, teda z\u00e1vere\u010dnej kontrolnej spr\u00e1ve pomenovali aj kto je zodpovedn\u00fd za tieto pochybenia?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:03:49,600 &#8211;&gt; 00:03:56,640 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Nie, toto nebolo mojou \u00falohou. Mojou \u00falohou bolo len pouk\u00e1za\u0165 na tie pochybenia. Kto je za to zodpovedn\u00fd? To nebolo mojou n\u00e1pl\u0148ou pr\u00e1ce.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:03:56,640 &#8211;&gt; 00:04:03,840 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A vieme teraz poveda\u0165 u\u017e teda po ukon\u010den\u00ed tej kauzy, \u017ee, \u017ee kto za t\u00fdm bol? \u017de pomenova\u0165 mo\u017eno nejak\u00e9 pracovn\u00e9 oblasti?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:04:03,840 &#8211;&gt; 00:04:35,064 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Na z\u00e1klade kontroly, ktor\u00e1 bola vykonan\u00e1 na Pedagogickej fakulte, p\u00e1n rektor vyhodnotil a v tej s\u00favislosti na z\u00e1klade pochyben\u00ed boli rozviazan\u00e9 pracovn\u00e9 pomery s troma pracovn\u00edkmi Pedagogickej fakulty, ktor\u00ed n\u00e1sledne sa s Katol\u00edckou univerzitou s\u00fadili o neplatnos\u0165 v\u00fdpovede. Tak\u017ee boli tam pomenovan\u00e9 konkr\u00e9tne osoby z tej Pedagogickej fakulty, ktor\u00fd to bol? Prodekan pre ekonomiku, hlavn\u00e1 ekon\u00f3mka, b\u00fdval\u00fd p\u00e1n dekan pedagogickej fakulty.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:04:35,064 &#8211;&gt; 00:04:38,324 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A to sa bav\u00edme e\u0161te v obdob\u00ed, kedy bol rektorom p\u00e1n Tade\u00e1\u0161 Zasepa.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:04:38,324 &#8211;&gt; 00:04:38,344 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00c1no.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:04:38,344 &#8211;&gt; 00:04:50,484 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ktor\u00fd mu nesk\u00f4r odst\u00fapil, ale k tomu sa tie\u017e dostaneme. Ja som sa do\u010d\u00edtala e\u0161te, \u017ee \u010das\u0165 pe\u0148az\u00ed kon\u010dila v nejakom s\u00fakromnom investi\u010dnom fonde, ale ni\u010d viac. Viete n\u00e1m pribl\u00ed\u017ei\u0165, \u017ee mo\u017eno ak\u00fd fond i\u0161lo alebo kto bol za n\u00edm?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:04:50,484 &#8211;&gt; 00:05:28,004 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Tento fond bol fond Ladislava Pirkera, ktor\u00fd zalo\u017eili fyzick\u00e9 osoby, s\u00fakromn\u00e9 osoby a vlastne tam i\u0161li peniaze, ktor\u00e9 boli vyberan\u00e9 od \u0161tudentov za z\u00e1pisn\u00e9 alebo boli vyberan\u00e9 od zamestnancov alebo \u0161tudentov, ktor\u00ed platili za ubytovanie, ale nie Katol\u00edckej univerzite, ale priamo do tohto fondu. Alebo nejak\u00ed doktorandi, ktor\u00ed pracovali, pracovali na pedagogickej fakulte, boli, nem\u00f4\u017eem poveda\u0165 asi, \u017ee don\u00faten\u00ed, ale podp\u00edsali zmluvu, \u017ee bud\u00fa \u010das\u0165 svojej, ako darovaciu zmluvu, \u017ee \u010das\u0165 svojej v\u00fdplaty, niekedy aj cel\u00fa v\u00fdplatu d\u00e1va\u0165 do tohto fondu.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:05:28,004 &#8211;&gt; 00:05:44,664 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A vy ste tu u\u017e spom\u00ednali, \u017ee boli rozviazan\u00e9 pracovn\u00e9 pomery s tromi pracovn\u00edkmi univerzity. E\u0161te k nie\u010domu do\u0161lo zo strany? Urobil e\u0161te vtedaj\u0161\u00ed rektor nejak\u00e9 kroky po t\u00fdchto zisteniach? Ke\u010f si teda pre\u010d\u00edtal t\u00fa va\u0161u spr\u00e1vu a tam boli rozsiahle pochybenia pomenovan\u00e9, tak \u010do sa \u010falej dialo? \u010co robil?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:05:44,664 &#8211;&gt; 00:05:54,224 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>N\u00e1sledne na z\u00e1klade vykonan\u00fdch kontrol bolo podan\u00fdch desa\u0165 trestn\u00fdch ozn\u00e1men\u00ed na nezn\u00e1meho p\u00e1chate\u013ea s t\u00fdm, \u017ee aby sa vy\u0161etrilo, \u010do sa vlastne deje.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:05:54,224 &#8211;&gt; 00:05:55,644 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A \u010do sa potom dialo?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:05:55,644 &#8211;&gt; 00:07:09,784 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>No, na z\u00e1klade toho, \u017ee boli podan\u00e9 tieto trestn\u00e9 ozn\u00e1menia, za\u010dali by\u0165 ve\u013ek\u00e9 zmeny aj v Akademickom sen\u00e1te a zo strany Akademick\u00e9ho sen\u00e1tu za\u010dali by\u0165 vyv\u00edjan\u00e9 ve\u013ek\u00e9 tlaky na p\u00e1na rektora Zasepu, ktor\u00fd odol\u00e1val t\u00fdmto tlakom, ale nakoniec, po viac ako pol roku tak\u00fdchto siln\u00fdch tlakov, s\u00e1m rozhodol abdikova\u0165 na svoju funkciu. Prv\u00e9 jeho ve\u013ek\u00e9 odvol\u00e1vanie bolo tesne pred Vianocami. Posledn\u00fd pracovn\u00fd de\u0148, kedy sme na rektor\u00e1te pracovali, tak zasadol akademick\u00fd sen\u00e1t a poobede mu ozn\u00e1mili, \u017ee je odvolan\u00fd. Ale ke\u010f\u017ee Katol\u00edcka univerzita je tro\u0161ka in\u00e1\u010d postaven\u00e1 ako v\u0161etky ostatn\u00e9 vysok\u00e9 \u0161koly, k tomu, aby mohol by\u0165 rektor odvolan\u00fd, bolo potrebn\u00e9 e\u0161te potvrdenie ko\u0161ick\u00e9ho arcibiskupa p\u00e1na Bobera, aby toto potvrdil, ale on p\u00e1na rektora vo funkcii podr\u017eal. No ale na z\u00e1klade t\u00fdch neskuto\u010dn\u00fdch, stra\u0161ne siln\u00fdch tlakov toho akademick\u00e9ho sen\u00e1tu, ktor\u00fd p\u00edsal aj do Vatik\u00e1nu, aby odvolali p\u00e1na rektora Zasepu zo Slovenska, p\u00edsali do Po\u013eska, aby ho stiahli zo Slovenska. Boli to neskuto\u010dn\u00e9 tlaky a nakoniec p\u00e1n rektor skon\u010dil v nemocnici.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:07:09,804 &#8211;&gt; 00:07:21,404 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00daplne nerozumiem tomu, pre\u010do mal akademick\u00fd sen\u00e1t z\u00e1ujem odvola\u0165 p\u00e1na rektora, ktor\u00fd vlastne len upozornil na pochybenia a chcel zjednan\u00fa n\u00e1pravu. Pre\u010do akademick\u00fd sen\u00e1t ho chcel odvola\u0165? Ako si to vysvet\u013eujete?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:07:21,404 &#8211;&gt; 00:07:31,884 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Pravdepodobne boli za t\u00fdm \u013eudia, ktor\u00ed aj cez akademick\u00fd sen\u00e1t a mo\u017eno boli aj v akademickom sen\u00e1te, mali z\u00e1ujem, aby sa dan\u00e9 veci nevy\u0161etrovali a aby sa v\u0161etko zahladilo.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:07:31,884 &#8211;&gt; 00:07:35,824 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A \u010do bol ten ofici\u00e1lny d\u00f4vod, ke\u010f sa ho sna\u017eili odvola\u0165? \u010co uviedli?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:07:35,824 &#8211;&gt; 00:07:53,894 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Uviedli, \u017ee s nimi nedok\u00e1\u017ee komunikova\u0165. Vy\u010d\u00edtali mu to, \u017ee sa pustil do stavby univerzitnej kni\u017enice, na ktor\u00fa on pozh\u00e1\u0148al ve\u013ek\u00e9 mno\u017estvo pe\u0148az\u00ed v\u010faka svojim kontaktom po celom svete. A jednoducho to boli tak\u00e9 vymyslen\u00e9, vymyslen\u00e9 veci, \u017ee pre\u010do by mal by\u0165 ako odvolan\u00fd.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:07:53,894 &#8211;&gt; 00:08:24,224 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Mne z t\u00fdch spr\u00e1v zarezonovala tak\u00e1 inform\u00e1cia, lebo teda p\u00e1n Zasepa bol Poliak a ja som niekde \u010d\u00edtala, \u017ee niekto to ako keby obhajoval t\u00fdm, \u017ee nerozumie po slovensky, \u017ee nevie sa s nimi rozpr\u00e1va\u0165. A mne to zarezonovalo a pri\u0161lo mi to aj tak\u00e9 \u00fasmevn\u00e9 z toho d\u00f4vodu, \u017ee m\u0148a teda p\u00e1n Zasepa u\u010dil. Teda mala som s n\u00edm nieko\u013eko predn\u00e1\u0161ok a nikdy som nemala pocit, \u017ee mu nerozumiem alebo by nerozumel on n\u00e1m. \u010ci\u017ee pre m\u0148a osobne to bol tak\u00fd \u00fasmevn\u00fd argument. Nakoniec teda ale p\u00e1n rektor rozhodol s\u00e1m, \u017ee odst\u00fapi. Vy ste vtedy mali nejak\u00fa obavu o svoju pr\u00e1cu?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:08:24,224 &#8211;&gt; 00:08:36,104 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Nie, nemala som obavu o svoju pr\u00e1cu. Mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee ja som si svoju pr\u00e1cu vykon\u00e1vala svedomite, tak ako sa m\u00e1 a ani vo sne ma v t\u00fdch momentov nenapadlo, \u017ee by som o svoju pr\u00e1cu mala pr\u00eds\u0165.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:08:36,104 &#8211;&gt; 00:08:37,044 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A \u010do sa stalo?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:08:37,044 &#8211;&gt; 00:10:47,994 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Bola to tak\u00e1 zauj\u00edmav\u00e1 situ\u00e1cia, ktor\u00e1 nastala, preto\u017ee nast\u00fapil nov\u00fd p\u00e1n rektor, ktor\u00fd bol menovan\u00fd do funkcie a bolo tak\u00e9 obdobie, \u017ee ja som sa akur\u00e1t chystala na pl\u00e1novan\u00fa dovolenku, tak\u017ee som si od neho i\u0161la da\u0165 podp\u00edsa\u0165 dovolenkov\u00fd l\u00edstok. Kedy sme sa prv\u00fdkr\u00e1t spolu stretli a sme sa rozpr\u00e1vali. P\u00e1n rektor sa ve\u013emi pekne o mne vyjadroval a pod\u013ea toho, \u017ee videl, ak\u00fa m\u00e1m vykonan\u00fa pr\u00e1cu, d\u00e1val mi e\u0161te t\u00fa n\u00e1dej, \u017ee ur\u010dite si n\u00e1jdem miesto aj v jeho t\u00edme a \u017ee bude s\u00e1m so mnou r\u00e1d \u010falej spolupracova\u0165. No, tento n\u00e1zor bol zmenen\u00fd po dvoch t\u00fd\u017ed\u0148och, ke\u010f som sa vr\u00e1tila z dovolenky, preto\u017ee hne\u010f o \u00f4smej som bola zavolan\u00e1 do kancel\u00e1rie rektora, ktor\u00fd mi dal do ruky papier a povedal: &#8222;Tu nami podp\u00ed\u0161te v\u00fdpove\u010f, preto\u017ee akademick\u00fd sen\u00e1t sa tak rozhodol.&#8220; No, bolo mi to poviem pravdu tro\u0161ka divn\u00e9, preto\u017ee m\u0148a zamestn\u00e1val rektor\u00e1t a nie akademick\u00fd sen\u00e1t a akademick\u00fd sen\u00e1t schva\u013euje to, \u010do navrhne rektor. A toto mi pri\u0161lo tak\u00e9 alibistick\u00e9, \u017ee p\u00e1n rektor sa vyhov\u00e1ral st\u00e1le len na akademick\u00fd sen\u00e1t, ale pravdepodobne to bude zasa len z toho d\u00f4vodu, \u017ee t\u00ed \u013eudia boli tak pomstychtiv\u00ed a chceli sa ma stoj \u010do stoj zbavi\u0165, aby som pri\u0161la o pr\u00e1cu. A tak robili v\u0161etko mo\u017en\u00e9, aby sa ma zbavili. Ja som t\u00fa v\u00fdpove\u010f podp\u00edsa\u0165 nechcela. P\u00e1n rektor mi ju ani nechcel da\u0165, aby som si ju v\u00f4bec pre\u010d\u00edtala, aby som sa s niek\u00fdm poradila. Nechcel ma pusti\u0165 ani z kancel\u00e1rie. Tak n\u00e1sledne na to si zavolal dvoch svedkov, aby pri\u0161li podp\u00edsa\u0165, \u017ee ja t\u00fa v\u00fdpove\u010f odmietam podp\u00edsa\u0165. A t\u00ed podp\u00edsali, \u017ee \u00e1no, \u017ee odmietam a odi\u0161la som z tej kancel\u00e1rie. Ale uvedomili si, \u017ee t\u00fdm p\u00e1dom, \u017ee ja ten papier ani nem\u00e1m, \u017ee ho odmietam podp\u00edsa\u0165, tak asi im to nejak mzdov\u00e1 referentka, alebo kto povedal, \u017ee to treba, \u017ee t\u00e1 v\u00fdpove\u010f mi mus\u00ed by\u0165 doru\u010den\u00e1. Len t\u00edm ja som pri\u0161la do tej kancel\u00e1rie a bola som tak z toho, neviem ani ako to nazva\u0165, roz\u010darovan\u00e1, prekvapen\u00e1 z toho obratu, tej situ\u00e1cie, z tej bizarnosti, \u017ee \u010dlovek, ktor\u00fd si vykon\u00e1va svoju pr\u00e1cu ako m\u00e1 a je za to potrestan\u00fd t\u00fdm, \u017ee pr\u00edde o pr\u00e1cu a \u013eudia, na ktor\u00fdch pochybenia pouk\u00e1zal-<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:10:47,994 &#8211;&gt; 00:10:48,044 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Mhm.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:10:48,088 &#8211;&gt; 00:11:00,628 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>-tak s\u00fa tam a ju maj\u00fa. To moje telo sa s t\u00fdm i\u0161lo vysporiada\u0165 a moje srdie\u010dko i\u0161lo roztrhn\u00fa\u0165. Tak kolegy\u0148a ma odviezla k lek\u00e1rovi a n\u00e1sledne som ostala doma na PN-ke, aby som mala \u010das sa s t\u00fdm v\u0161etk\u00fdm vysporiada\u0165.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:11:00,628 &#8211;&gt; 00:11:05,368 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A vysporiadali ste sa teda s t\u00fdm tak, \u017ee ste sa rozhodli, \u017ee u\u017e nechcete viac pracova\u0165 na univerzite?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:11:05,368 &#8211;&gt; 00:11:17,908 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00c1no, bolo to tak\u00e9to rozhodnutie, ale to rozhodnutie nepri\u0161lo zo d\u0148a na de\u0148. Trvalo to trochu dlh\u0161iu dobu, \u0161tyri p\u00e4\u0165 mesiacov, k\u00fdm som nadobudla to presved\u010denie, \u017ee \u00e1no, \u017ee prakticky tam u\u017e pracova\u0165 nechcem.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:11:17,908 &#8211;&gt; 00:11:21,728 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ako vyzerali tie posledn\u00e9 dva mesiace, ke\u010f ste boli vo v\u00fdpovednej lehote?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:11:21,728 &#8211;&gt; 00:12:00,508 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ke\u010f som sa rozhodla ukon\u010di\u0165 PN-ku a vysporiadala sa s t\u00fdm, \u017ee teda o t\u00fa pr\u00e1cu pr\u00eddem, tak op\u00e4tovne som pri\u0161la na rektor\u00e1t a p\u00e1n rektor sa so mnou ani nechcel stretn\u00fa\u0165. Ten sa mi vyh\u00fdbal, asi sa b\u00e1l m\u00f4jho mo\u017eno aj \u010do len o\u010dn\u00e9ho kontaktu a mo\u017eno ho tro\u0161ka hr\u00fdzlo svedomie. Tak so mnou jednal len riadite\u013e vn\u00fatornej spr\u00e1vy, ktor\u00fd znova hne\u010f mi chcel d\u00e1va\u0165 podpisova\u0165 v\u00fdpove\u010f. Ja som s t\u00fdm nes\u00fahlasila, tak mi pridelili pr\u00e1cu v kni\u017enici, kde som vyra\u010fovala z datab\u00e1zy knihy, ktor\u00e9 boli duplicitn\u00e9 alebo star\u00e9 alebo nie\u010do tak\u00e9, k\u00fdm vyplynula vlastne ofici\u00e1lna dvojmesa\u010dn\u00e1 v\u00fdpovedn\u00e1 lehota.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:12:00,508 &#8211;&gt; 00:12:04,328 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A \u010do bolo vlastne ofici\u00e1lnym d\u00f4vodom va\u0161ej v\u00fdpovede? Lebo to sme nepovedali.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:12:04,328 &#8211;&gt; 00:12:23,928 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Bola to zmena organiza\u010dnej \u0161trukt\u00fary. Hoci oni zmenili organiza\u010dn\u00fa \u0161trukt\u00faru na rektor\u00e1te, tak prakticky vytvorili oddelenie kontroly a auditu. Alebo tak sa mi zd\u00e1, \u017ee vol\u00e1 a boli tam vytvoren\u00e9 tie pracovn\u00e9 miesta, len bohu\u017eia\u013e, ako\u017ee mi nebola pon\u00faknut\u00e1 pr\u00e1ca na tomto novo vytvorenom oddelen\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:12:23,928 &#8211;&gt; 00:12:25,808 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ako na to reagovali va\u0161i kolegovia?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:12:25,808 &#8211;&gt; 00:12:40,468 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ke\u010f som sa ako\u017ee vr\u00e1tila, tak toto v\u00fdpovedn\u00e9 obdobie e\u0161te nebolo ako\u017ee tak\u00e9 zl\u00e9. Prakticky bola som sama v nejakej kancel\u00e1rii na druhom poschod\u00ed. Skoro s nik\u00fdm som sa tam nestret\u00e1vala. Tak dalo sa to. Tie kni\u017eky s\u00fa kr\u00e1sne a d\u00e1 sa to vydr\u017ea\u0165.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:12:40,468 &#8211;&gt; 00:12:43,668 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>M\u00e1 zo z\u00e1kona univerzita povinnos\u0165 ma\u0165 hlavn\u00e9ho kontrol\u00f3ra?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:12:43,668 &#8211;&gt; 00:12:47,628 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Vysoko\u0161kolsk\u00fd z\u00e1kon t\u00fato povinnos\u0165 neuklad\u00e1. Je to na rozhodnut\u00ed rektora.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:12:47,628 &#8211;&gt; 00:12:55,047 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u010ci\u017ee to bolo vtedy len rozhodnutie p\u00e1na rektora Zasepu, \u017ee chcete ma\u0165 kontrol\u00f3ra, ktor\u00fd sa bude, ktor\u00fd sa pozrie na tie veci, ktor\u00e9 sa mu zdali podozriv\u00e9?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:12:55,048 &#8211;&gt; 00:13:03,628 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00c1no.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:13:03,628 &#8211;&gt; 00:13:17,428 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>M\u0148a by zauj\u00edmalo, \u017ee \u010di sa niekto za v\u00e1s postavil. Mo\u017eno \u017ee videl, \u017ee vy ste v z\u00e1sade upozornili na nie\u010do nez\u00e1konn\u00e9 a odpove\u010fou bolo za to v\u00fdpove\u010f. Tak \u010di niekto za vami mo\u017eno s kolegov pri\u0161iel a nejak sa sna\u017eil by\u0165 pre v\u00e1s nejakou mor\u00e1lnou podporou alebo nie\u010do podobn\u00e9?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:13:17,428 &#8211;&gt; 00:13:41,568 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Boli to aj \u013eudia z Katol\u00edckej univerzity, ktor\u00ed ma podporovali, ale s t\u00fdm, \u017ee tajne. Aby ma s tebou nevideli. Dobre to rob\u00ed\u0161, ako to rob\u00ed\u0161? Kone\u010dne tu niekto sprav\u00ed poriadok. Ako, ale aby ma s tebou nevideli a navonok \u0165a podpori\u0165 nem\u00f4\u017eem, preto\u017ee ja potrebujem dosta\u0165 desiateho v\u00fdplatu. \u013dudia mali, niektor\u00ed mali strach sa navonok postavi\u0165 za to, \u017ee kone\u010dne by sa tu nie\u010do, nie\u010do dobr\u00e9 spravilo.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:13:41,568 &#8211;&gt; 00:13:47,628 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A ako ste sa vtedy c\u00edtili? Malo to pre v\u00e1s nejak\u00fd v\u00fdznam, \u017ee v\u00e1m teda dali nejak\u00fa podporu, ale len tak tajne, aby o tom nikto nevedel?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:13:47,628 &#8211;&gt; 00:14:08,168 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Tak ako sme \u013eudia. Ka\u017ed\u00fd sa d\u00e1 pochopi\u0165 a ka\u017ed\u00fd sa na dan\u00fa vec pozer\u00e1. Len mi to bolo divn\u00e9, \u017ee jednoducho nevidia, \u017ee tie peniaze sa prakticky nedostali tam, kde mali, aby to vzdel\u00e1vanie mohlo by\u0165 lep\u0161ie. Prakticky od \u013eud\u00ed boli zobrat\u00e9 peniaze a niekde sa stratili. Neboli pou\u017eit\u00e9 na to, \u010do mali.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:14:08,168 &#8211;&gt; 00:14:16,128 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Vy ste sa nakoniec ale potom rozhodli, \u017ee p\u00f4jdete na s\u00fad. S\u00fadi\u0165 o neplatnos\u0165 v\u00fdpovede. \u010co sa stalo, \u017ee ste zmenili n\u00e1zor alebo \u017ee ste sa rozhodli bojova\u0165?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:14:16,128 &#8211;&gt; 00:14:35,248 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>To, \u017ee som sa rozhodla bojova\u0165? Mo\u017eno sa mi oz\u00fdvalo ve\u013ea novin\u00e1rov, ktor\u00ed mali z\u00e1ujem o toto a ve\u013ea \u013eud\u00ed, \u017ee po\u010f nie\u010do zmen\u00ed. Mo\u017eno najviac ma ovplyvnil aj m\u00f4j syn star\u0161\u00ed, ktor\u00fd akur\u00e1t vtedy kon\u010dil vysok\u00fa \u0161kolu a<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:14:35,248 &#8211;&gt; 00:14:49,908 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>povedal: &#8222;Mami, po\u010f do toho, ty m\u00e1\u0161 \u0161ancu zmeni\u0165 nie\u010do na Slovensku,&#8220; aby sa tu t\u00ed mlad\u00ed \u013eudia neodch\u00e1dzali pre\u010d. Fakt st\u00e1la vtedy pri mne cel\u00e1 rodina, ako podporovali ma. Man\u017eel povedal: &#8222;A akoko\u013evek sa rozhodne\u0161, budeme pri tebe.&#8220; D\u00fafam, \u017ee to trocha pomohlo.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:14:49,908 &#8211;&gt; 00:14:52,168 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>To je super. A \u010do va\u0161i rodi\u010dia mo\u017eno?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:14:52,168 &#8211;&gt; 00:15:03,488 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ocko u\u017e ne\u017eije a maminka bola z toho ako\u017ee tak\u00e1, \u017ee h\u00e1dam sa nejde\u0161 s\u00fadi\u0165 s Katol\u00edckou univerzitou, ale v\u0161ak pozn\u00e1 zas moju povahu, som povedala a idem. A t\u00fdm n\u00e1\u0161 rozhovor o tom skon\u010dil.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:15:03,488 &#8211;&gt; 00:15:08,168 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ako prebiehal ten s\u00fad potom samotn\u00fd? Tam sa niekto za v\u00e1s postavil s kolegov?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:15:08,168 &#8211;&gt; 00:15:33,808 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Na s\u00fade boli kolegovia, ktor\u00ed bl\u00edzko spolupracovali s p\u00e1nom rektorom prakticky v tom obdob\u00ed. Nebola som prepusten\u00e1 len ja, ale bolo n\u00e1s prepusten\u00fdch pribli\u017ene tridsa\u0165 \u013eud\u00ed. Tak\u017ee ako t\u00ed najbli\u017e\u0161\u00ed spolupracovn\u00edci boli ako\u017ee aj v m\u00f4j prospech sved\u010di\u0165 ako p\u00e1n profesor Olek\u0161\u00e1k, hovorca Katol\u00edckej univerzity Vladko Buzna, Pe\u0165ka Marhevkov\u00e1, ktor\u00e1 so mnou spolupracovala, boli pozvan\u00ed ako svedkovia.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:15:33,808 &#8211;&gt; 00:15:42,328 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Vy ste mi spom\u00ednali e\u0161te aj pani kvestorku, ktor\u00e1 ale \u00faplne opa\u010dne zareagovala. Sk\u00faste n\u00e1m e\u0161te tento pr\u00edbeh porozpr\u00e1va\u0165, lebo je tie\u017e ve\u013emi fascinuj\u00faci.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:15:42,328 &#8211;&gt; 00:16:45,448 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>To bola ve\u013emi, ve\u013emi zvl\u00e1\u0161tna zase situ\u00e1cia, ktor\u00e1 nastala preto, \u017ee ako prv\u00e1 osoba, s ktorou som sa rozpr\u00e1vala, ke\u010f som mala nast\u00fapi\u0165 na Katol\u00edcku univerzitu, bola pani kvestorka, ktor\u00e1 ma vlastne odporu\u010dila \u010falej p\u00e1novi Zasepovi, \u017ee by ma odporu\u010dila na poz\u00edciu teda kontrol\u00f3rky, aby sa so mnou on porozpr\u00e1val a aj po tej v\u00fdpovedi vlastne, ktor\u00fa mi p\u00e1n rektor d\u00e1val, pri\u0161la za mnou a povedala: &#8222;\u00c1, nebojte sa, ve\u010f vy ve\u013emi dobre pracujete, ja by som rada \u010falej s vami spolupracovala, ke\u010f nie na kontrole, tak ja si v\u00e1s zoberiem k mne na ekonomick\u00fd \u00fasek,&#8220; lebo bola s mojou pr\u00e1cou spokojn\u00e1. A zrazu som ostala prekvapen\u00e1, ke\u010f na s\u00fade bola sved\u010di\u0165 za Katol\u00edcku univerzitu a za\u010dala rozpr\u00e1va\u0165 tak\u00e9 veci, ako \u017ee ona od za\u010diatku vedela, \u017ee ja nie som schopn\u00e1 pracova\u0165 na Katol\u00edckej univerzite. Za\u010dala tam vy\u0165ahova\u0165 tak\u00e9 veci, \u017ee ako\u017ee neviem robi\u0165 t\u00fa pr\u00e1cu alebo tak\u00e9 to bolo, \u017ee som mala s nej tak\u00fd pocit, \u017ee o mne rozpr\u00e1va, ako keby som nevedela ani \u010d\u00edta\u0165.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:16:45,448 &#8211;&gt; 00:16:49,628 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A vy ste ju potom nekonfrontovali, \u017ee \u010do? Nastal tak\u00fd n\u00e1hly obrat v jej n\u00e1zore?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:16:49,628 &#8211;&gt; 00:17:24,696 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Nekonfrontovala som ju s t\u00fdm, preto\u017ee nemali sme mo\u017enos\u0165 sa stretn\u00fa\u0165. Ale \u010fal\u0161\u00edm ve\u013ek\u00fdm prekvapen\u00edm bolo pre m\u0148a, ke\u010f teda som vyhrala ten s\u00fad a neplatnos\u0165 v\u00fdpovede a op\u00e4tovne som nast\u00fapila na univerzitu, preto\u017ee mi nikto nedal vedie\u0165, \u017ee nem\u00e1m zo s\u00fadu. Tak som tam pri\u0161la a ona za mnou pri\u0161la a za\u010dala sa mi ospravedl\u0148ova\u0165, \u017ee vypovedala tak, ako vypovedala, \u017ee ona prakticky chr\u00e1nila z\u00e1ujmy Katol\u00edckej univerzity a \u017ee ak m\u00f4\u017eem, \u017ee nech jej to odpust\u00edm. \u013dudia, ako ve\u013emi divn\u00e9 spr\u00e1vanie. No ale tak. Sme tak\u00ed \u013eudia.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:17:24,696 &#8211;&gt; 00:17:31,116 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Chcem sa vr\u00e1ti\u0165 e\u0161te k t\u00fdm trestn\u00fdm ozn\u00e1meniam, ktor\u00e9 ste spom\u00ednali, \u017ee p\u00e1n b\u00fdval\u00fd rektor Zasepa pod\u00e1val. \u010co sa s nimi stalo?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:17:31,116 &#8211;&gt; 00:17:40,996 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Bohu\u017eia\u013e, ako nast\u00fapilo nov\u00e9 vedenie po p\u00e1novi rektorovi Zasepovi, tak nov\u00fd p\u00e1n rektor v\u0161etky trestn\u00e9 ozn\u00e1menia stiahol, tak\u017ee sa \u010falej vo vy\u0161etrovan\u00ed nepokra\u010dovalo.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:17:40,996 &#8211;&gt; 00:17:57,216 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Nakoniec ale teda pochybenia na univerzite priznala aj Konferencia biskupov Slovenska, ktor\u00e1 si nechala vykona\u0165 tak\u00fd svoj vlastn\u00fd audit. Nez\u00e1vislou spolo\u010dnos\u0165ou. Vypo\u010dujeme si, \u010do v roku 2015 povedal k v\u00fdsledkom auditu gener\u00e1lny sekret\u00e1r Konferencie biskupov Slovenska Mari\u00e1n Chovanec.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:17:57,216 &#8211;&gt; 00:18:16,896 [reklama]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>V obdob\u00ed rokov 2010 2013 do\u0161lo vo veden\u00ed Katol\u00edckej univerzity, Pedagogickej fakulty a Filozofickej fakulty k z\u00e1va\u017en\u00fdm mana\u017e\u00e9rskym zlyhaniam, neefekt\u00edvnemu hospod\u00e1reniu a konaniu v rozpore s dobr\u00fdmi mravmi.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:18:16,896 &#8211;&gt; 00:18:31,056 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ke\u010f sa port\u00e1l Postoj p\u00fdtal vtedaj\u0161ieho rektora na vyvodenie osobnej zodpovednosti, povedal, \u017ee chce po\u010dka\u0165, ak\u00fdm sp\u00f4sobom dotknut\u00ed zamestnanci sami vyvodia d\u00f4sledky vo\u010di sebe a pod\u013ea toho bude postupova\u0165. Viete, \u010di tam st\u00e1le robia t\u00ed \u013eudia, ktor\u00ed boli zodpovedn\u00ed za pochybenia?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:18:31,056 &#8211;&gt; 00:18:41,376 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Poviem pravdu, je to u\u017e vzdialen\u00e9 obdobie pre m\u0148a. Ja ako som skon\u010dila na Katol\u00edckej univerzite, prestala som sa o \u0148u zauj\u00edma\u0165, ale ur\u010dite niektor\u00e9 osoby s\u00fa tam dodnes.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:18:41,376 &#8211;&gt; 00:18:52,196 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A kedy sa to pre v\u00e1s cel\u00e9 skon\u010dilo? Kedy ste si vyd\u00fdchli? Bolo to t\u00fdm s\u00fadom alebo ke\u010f ten skon\u010dil, alebo kedy sa pre v\u00e1s t\u00e1 cel\u00e1 situ\u00e1cia ukon\u010dila, \u017ee ste si povedali u\u017e je to v\u0161etko za mnou.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:18:52,196 &#8211;&gt; 00:20:20,536 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Prakticky asi t\u00fdm s\u00fadom, no s\u00fadom ani nie, preto\u017ee prakticky nakoniec ten m\u00f4j pracovn\u00fd pomer skon\u010dil vlastne dohodou, dohodou o rozviazan\u00ed pracovn\u00e9ho pomeru. Tak\u017ee to, \u010do som spom\u00ednala, tam ur\u010dit\u00e9 lehoty toho s\u00fadu sa musia dodr\u017ea\u0165, ktor\u00e9 s\u00fa na to odvolania. Ke\u010f\u017ee Katol\u00edcka univerzita nepodala odvolanie, ja som nast\u00fapila a asi t\u00fd\u017ede\u0148 alebo dva, u\u017e si to nepam\u00e4t\u00e1m presne, som chodila do tej pr\u00e1ce, preto\u017ee som bola prakticky neplatnos\u0165 v\u00fdpovede, st\u00e1le zamestnanec Katol\u00edckej univerzity. A to bolo zasa tak\u00e9 divn\u00e9 obdobie, preto\u017ee ten p\u00e1n riadite\u013e vn\u00fatornej spr\u00e1vy mi otvoril miestnos\u0165, kde bola stoli\u010dka, st\u00f4l. Tu si sadnite a tu budete sedie\u0165. A ke\u010f som sa op\u00fdtala, ak\u00fa pr\u00e1cu mi budete pride\u013eova\u0165, tak mi bolo povedan\u00e9 Nie, \u017eiadna pr\u00e1ca v\u00e1m pride\u013eovan\u00e1 nebude. Tu budete sedie\u0165. Ke\u010f som si p\u00fdtala, \u017ee teda si vy\u010derp\u00e1m dovolenku, aby som tu nesedela, tak mi ju nepodp\u00edsal s t\u00fdm, \u017ee on mi ju podp\u00edsa\u0165 nemus\u00ed a on mi ju ani ned\u00e1. A prakticky z\u00e1konn\u00edk pr\u00e1ce je v tejto oblasti na strane zamestn\u00e1vate\u013ea, preto\u017ee on v\u00e1m m\u00f4\u017ee ako \u017ee ur\u010dova\u0165 dovolenku. Pl\u00e1n dovoleniek schv\u00e1len\u00fd nebol, tak\u017ee nemala som \u0161ancu. Jednoducho mu i\u0161lo len o to, aby som tam sedela a mo\u017eno ma t\u00fdm tyranizoval, terorizoval? Neviem, preto\u017ee tak nepekn\u00e9 spr\u00e1vanie zo strany nadriaden\u00e9ho chlapa, k\u0148aza k podriaden\u00e9mu, k \u017eene, k pracovn\u00ed\u010dke som nikde inde neza\u017eila ako tun\u00e1 za ten t\u00fd\u017ede\u0148.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:20:20,536 &#8211;&gt; 00:20:23,956 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A vtedy ste si povedali, \u017ee u\u017e s Katol\u00edckou univerzitou naozaj ni\u010d nechcete ma\u0165?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:20:23,956 &#8211;&gt; 00:20:41,376 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>No vtedy ur\u010dite. A som ostala prakticky prekvapen\u00e1. \u010clovek si kladie potom tak\u00e9 ot\u00e1zky, kde je t\u00e1 hl\u00e1ska k bl\u00ed\u017enemu, o ktorej hl\u00e1saj\u00fa? Kde je to formovanie osobnosti \u010dloveka? Ke\u010f vo vysok\u00fdch poz\u00edci\u00e1ch k\u0148azsk\u00fdch s\u00fa tak\u00edto \u013eudia, ktor\u00ed sa takto nepekne spr\u00e1vaj\u00fa k \u013eu\u010fom?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:20:41,376 &#8211;&gt; 00:20:42,256 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ste katol\u00ed\u010dka?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:20:42,256 &#8211;&gt; 00:20:42,716 [reklama]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>S\u00e1m.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:20:42,716 &#8211;&gt; 00:20:50,996 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A zmenil sa po tomto pr\u00edbehu nejak v\u00e1\u0161 vz\u0165ah? Poviem k cirkvi, lebo to s\u00fa dve rozdielne veci k viere a k cirkvi. Tak k cirkvi, \u010di sa zmenil?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:20:50,996 &#8211;&gt; 00:21:29,576 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>K cirkvi ur\u010dite. Ur\u010dite sa pozer\u00e1m na to, ako aj predt\u00fdm s man\u017eelom s Deirdre si hovorili, \u017ee t\u00ed niektor\u00ed cirkevn\u00ed hodnost\u00e1ri s\u00fa tak\u00ed, ak\u00ed s\u00fa. A na\u0161a osobn\u00e1 sk\u00fasenos\u0165 n\u00e1m to len potvrdila, \u017ee nie s\u00fa to \u013eudia, ktor\u00ed robia to, \u010do hl\u00e1saj\u00fa, \u017ee je to jedna ve\u013ek\u00e1 pravda. A prakticky n\u00e1s to v tomto presved\u010den\u00ed len utvrdilo. S\u00fa k\u0148azi, s ktor\u00fdmi sme sa stretli, s\u00fa to vz\u00e1cni \u013eudia, ale bohu\u017eia\u013e, s\u00fa tam aj \u013eudia, ktor\u00ed t\u00fa poz\u00edciu by nemali zast\u00e1va\u0165.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:21:29,576 &#8211;&gt; 00:21:37,136 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Vedeli by ste pomenova\u0165, \u017ee \u010do bolo v celej tejto situ\u00e1cii pre v\u00e1s tak\u00e9 naj\u0165a\u017e\u0161ie? Nejak\u00e9 zistenie? Mo\u017eno \u013eud\u00ed okolo v\u00e1s? Alebo-<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:21:37,136 &#8211;&gt; 00:22:30,439 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Tak, ako bolo to tak\u00e9 zvl\u00e1\u0161tne obdobie cel\u00e9, preto\u017ee \u013eudia z Katol\u00edckej univerzity, \u010dlovek si to tak na za\u010diatku mo\u017eno nev\u0161imne, ale ke\u010f sa v\u00e1m druh\u00fd, tret\u00edkr\u00e1t stane, \u017ee b\u00fdval\u00fd kolega z univerzity za vami stoj\u00ed v rade v obchode a zrazu ho napadne, ako\u017ee ja idem ved\u013ea do pokladne, tak prv\u00fdkr\u00e1t ni\u010d hej, ale ke\u010f sa to stane druh\u00fd, tret\u00ed kr\u00e1t, tak si uvedom\u00edte, \u017ee t\u00ed \u013eudia sa boja so mnou len v rade v obchode st\u00e1\u0165, aby ich nikto nevidel, aby nikto n\u00e1s nesp\u00e1jal mo\u017eno spolu, aby im nebolo ubl\u00ed\u017een\u00e9. Tak\u017ee mo\u017eno \u017ee teraz sa u\u017e \u010dlovek nad t\u00fdm pousmeje, ale \u017ee ak\u00ed sme \u013eudia? \u017de hoci vedeli, \u017ee ja m\u00e1m pravdu, tak mo\u017eno sa b\u00e1li, ja neviem o svoje \u017eivobytie alebo o svoju poz\u00edciu v pr\u00e1ci, alebo prejavi\u0165 svoj vlastn\u00fd n\u00e1zor, tak rad\u0161ej s tebou sa na verejnosti nebudeme ani len v obchode.-\u0165a, st\u00e1\u0165 v rade.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:22:30,439 &#8211;&gt; 00:22:36,199 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A stalo sa v\u00e1m mo\u017eno nie\u010do tak\u00e9, lebo s t\u00fdm sa stret\u00e1vame pri oznamovate\u013eoch, \u017ee v\u00e1s niekto mo\u017eno aj zastra\u0161oval?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:22:36,199 &#8211;&gt; 00:23:07,790 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Tak \u00e1no. Boli to, boli to aj tak\u00e9 s\u013eubn\u00e9 \u00fatoky, \u017ee ty nevie\u0161, s k\u00fdm sa zahr\u00e1va\u0161. A daj im u\u017e pokojne, kontroluj ich u\u017e to\u013eko. Stalo sa n\u00e1m, \u017ee po vy\u0161etrovan\u00ed t\u00fdch troch v\u00fdpoved\u00ed na pedagogickej fakulte som bola vypoveda\u0165 ako svedok, tak na druh\u00fd de\u0148 som mala prerezan\u00e9 gumy na aute. Ke\u010f sa to stalo prv\u00fdkr\u00e1t, tak som si myslela, no spravila som defekt naraz na oboch predn\u00fdch koles\u00e1ch. Ale ke\u010f sa mi to stalo druh\u00fdkr\u00e1t a ke\u010f aj p\u00e1n profesor Olex\u0161\u00e1k povedal, \u017ee aj on mal rozrezan\u00e9 gumy na aute, tak to u\u017e ur\u010dite nebola n\u00e1hoda.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:23:07,790 &#8211;&gt; 00:23:11,479 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A pri tomto v\u0161etkom, \u010do sa v\u00e1m stalo, \u010do ste pre\u017eili, urobili by ste to znova?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:23:11,479 &#8211;&gt; 00:23:19,240 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ur\u010dite. Ur\u010dite by som i\u0161la znova do toho a mo\u017eno s v\u00e4\u010d\u0161ou razanciou a s v\u00e4\u010d\u0161ou odvahou. Stoj\u00ed to za to.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:23:19,240 &#8211;&gt; 00:23:23,540 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A \u010do v\u00e1m to cel\u00e9 dalo? Ak\u00fd je teda v\u00f4bec nie\u010do, \u017ee, \u017ee v\u00e1m to do \u017eivota aj dalo, nielen vzalo?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:23:23,540 &#8211;&gt; 00:23:51,659 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ur\u010dite ma to presved\u010dilo, \u017ee aj na t\u00fdch s\u00fadoch s\u00fa sudcovia, ktor\u00ed ide o spravodlivos\u0165, ktor\u00ed nie s\u00fa mo\u017eno zavle\u010den\u00ed a dr\u017eia si t\u00fa svoju l\u00edniu. A dalo mi to mno\u017estvo, mno\u017estvo super \u013eud\u00ed, s ktor\u00fdmi sme mali mo\u017enos\u0165 sa stretn\u00fa\u0165 za to uplynul\u00e9 obdobie, ktor\u00fdm ide fakt o dobro Slovenska. O to, aby mo\u017eno naozaj na\u0161e vysok\u00e9 \u0161koly pracovali tak, ako maj\u00fa, preto\u017ee \u013eudia na Slovensku si zasl\u00fa\u017eia kvalitn\u00e9 vzdelanie.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:23:51,659 &#8211;&gt; 00:23:52,719 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A ako sa m\u00e1te teraz?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:23:52,719 &#8211;&gt; 00:23:58,759 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>M\u00e1m sa fajn. Odvtedy n\u00e1m pribudlo p\u00e4\u0165 vn\u00fa\u010dat. Obaja synovia s\u00fa \u017eenat\u00ed. Ako\u017ee-<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:23:58,760 &#8211;&gt; 00:23:59,500 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A kde pracujete?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:23:59,500 &#8211;&gt; 00:24:03,120 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>P\u00e1r r\u00f4\u010dkov. Teraz pracujem na obecnom \u00farade v Partiz\u00e1nskej \u013dup\u010di.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:24:03,120 &#8211;&gt; 00:24:07,620 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A mali ste probl\u00e9m sa zamestna\u0165? Potom, ako ste odi\u0161li z Katol\u00edckej univerzity?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:24:07,620 &#8211;&gt; 00:24:52,980 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Nie, nemala som probl\u00e9m, preto\u017ee mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee v tom na\u0161om okrese to dos\u0165 rezonovalo. Zamestnala som sa najsk\u00f4r na obecnom \u00farade v L\u00fa\u010dkach. Pre\u0161la som v\u00fdberov\u00fdm konan\u00edm ako hlavn\u00fd kontrol\u00f3r obce a s t\u00fdm, \u017ee naozaj ma hrialo na du\u0161i, \u017ee ve\u013ea starostov alebo aj poslancov z in\u00fdch obc\u00ed sa na m\u0148a obracalo, obracalo s radou alebo s pomocou a mala som ako\u017ee aj tak\u00e9 ponuky: &#8222;Joj, aj my by sme chceli tak\u00e9ho zamestnanca, ako si ty.&#8220; Tak\u017ee bolo to tak\u00e9 pote\u0161uj\u00face. A ke\u010f mi skon\u010dilo funk\u010dn\u00e9 obdobie na obecnom \u00farade na L\u00fa\u010dkach, tak prakticky som sa dostala do Partiz\u00e1nskej \u013dup\u010de zas a len v\u010faka tomu, \u017ee ma t\u00ed \u013eudia poznali a vedia o mojej pr\u00e1ci, ako ju vykon\u00e1vam.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:24:52,980 &#8211;&gt; 00:24:58,459 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Teraz e\u0161te niekedy tak sama od seba spomeniete na t\u00fa \u0165a\u017e\u0161iu \u017eivotn\u00fa etapu, ke\u010f ste boli na Katol\u00edckej univerzite?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:24:58,459 &#8211;&gt; 00:24:59,540 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Teraz u\u017e ani nie.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:24:59,540 &#8211;&gt; 00:25:00,260 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>U\u017e je to za vami?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:25:00,260 &#8211;&gt; 00:25:00,480 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Mhm.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:25:00,480 &#8211;&gt; 00:25:06,408 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A kde sa berie vo v\u00e1s ten zmysel pre spravodlivos\u0165? \u017de teda idete na tie barik\u00e1dy, ozvete sa, bojujete za pravdu?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:25:06,408 &#8211;&gt; 00:25:19,280 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ja neviem, mo\u017eno, \u017ee je to v \u010dloveku v podstate, preto\u017ee ke\u010f si tak spom\u00ednam, od mala som mala v\u017edy ten pocit zast\u00e1va\u0165 sa t\u00fdch slab\u0161\u00edch alebo mo\u017eno t\u00fdch, ktor\u00ed boli \u0161ikanovan\u00ed, alebo t\u00fdch, ktor\u00ed neboli docenen\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:25:19,280 &#8211;&gt; 00:25:21,399 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u010ci\u017ee asi to&#8230; Niektor\u00ed to maj\u00fa proste v sebe.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:25:21,399 &#8211;&gt; 00:25:22,399 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Asi to m\u00e1me v sebe.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:25:22,399 &#8211;&gt; 00:25:25,800 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>M\u00e1te nejak\u00fa radu pre \u013eud\u00ed, ktor\u00ed teraz zva\u017euj\u00fa, \u010di sa maj\u00fa ozva\u0165?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:25:25,800 &#8211;&gt; 00:25:54,360 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ka\u017ed\u00fd s t\u00fdmto sa mus\u00ed vysporiada\u0165 s\u00e1m, aj ke\u010f m\u00e1 \u0161irok\u00fa podporu okolia pomoci. Mne ve\u013emi v t\u00fdchto \u0165a\u017ek\u00fdch chv\u00ed\u013each pomohla nad\u00e1cia Zastavme korupciu. Mala som naozaj aj \u0161\u0165astie na dobr\u00fa pr\u00e1vni\u010dku z Ellen Overi, Katku Matul\u00edkov\u00fa, \u017ee t\u00edto \u013eudia pri mne st\u00e1li, dr\u017eali mi pom\u00e1hali, ale to kone\u010dn\u00e9 rozhodnutie je na samotnom \u010dloveku a mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee oplat\u00ed sa za t\u00fa pravdu bojova\u0165, \u017ee je to ve\u013emi dobr\u00fd pocit.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:25:54,360 &#8211;&gt; 00:26:04,639 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ja u\u017e len dopln\u00edm, \u017ee u\u017e je tu aj \u00darad na ochranu oznamovate\u013eov, ktor\u00fd m\u00f4\u017ee pom\u00f4c\u0165 \u013eu\u010fom, ako ste vy, v tak\u00fdchto \u0165a\u017ek\u00fdch \u017eivotn\u00fdch situ\u00e1ci\u00e1ch. \u010eakujem ve\u013emi pekne, \u017ee ste si na n\u00e1s na\u0161li \u010das a pri\u0161li do Bratislavy.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:26:04,639 &#8211;&gt; 00:26:07,560 [Marta Bo\u010dekov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u010eakujem, dovidenia.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:26:07,560 &#8211;&gt; 00:26:35,260 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Po\u010d\u00favali ste podcast Neuml\u010dan\u00ed, ktor\u00fd pre v\u00e1s vytv\u00e1ra \u00darad na ochranu oznamovate\u013eov. Ak n\u00e1m chcete ozn\u00e1mi\u0165 korupciu alebo in\u00e9 poru\u0161ovanie z\u00e1konov, ktor\u00e9 maj\u00fa dopad na verejn\u00fd z\u00e1ujem, nap\u00ed\u0161te n\u00e1m na neumlcani@oznamovatelia.sk. O mesiac budeme ma\u0165 pre v\u00e1s nov\u00fd pr\u00edbeh odv\u00e1\u017eneho whistleblowera. Dovtedy nezabudnite, \u017ee neml\u010da\u0165 je zlato.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:26:39,320 &#8211;&gt; 00:27:15,800 [reklama]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Zar\u00e1ba\u0165 potrebujeme v\u0161etci, no niektor\u00ed z n\u00e1s maj\u00fa cestu k zamestnaniu ve\u013emi \u0165a\u017ek\u00fa. Na trhu pr\u00e1ce maj\u00fa zdravotn\u00e9 alebo soci\u00e1lne znev\u00fdhodnenie, \u010dasto \u00faplne zbyto\u010dne. Sp\u00f4sobuj\u00fa ho na\u0161e predsudky a nevedomos\u0165. Vol\u00e1m sa \u013dubica Melzerov\u00e1 a chcem, aby sa to zmenilo. Aj preto som pre v\u00e1s pripravila podcastov\u00fa minis\u00e9riu My sa v\u00e1m ozveme. 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